Veganism & Vegetarianism Asked by nobe4 on August 23, 2021
I’ve been vegan/vegetarian for about 4 years now and my way of making sure I’d eat enough of everything is to mix as much as possible vegetables, fruits, grains…
There’s a French recommendation to eat at least 5 fruits/vegetables per day, and that’s what I’d usually eat in a single meal (not with the full quantities though).
I recently learned about vitamins D and B12 and the fact that we can’t have them “naturally” in a vegetarian/vegan diet made me think that I’m surely missing a lot more vitamins, minerals, nutrients, or other elements I’m not even aware of.
How do you make sure you get enough of everything you need?
Is there a method to keep track of that?
Upvoted this question, it is excellent and I'm honoured to be answering it. I read all other answers first as you should if you're serious about q&as.
Okay qualification first. I was given two years to live 15 years ago because of my consistent 220/120 blood pressure. I've tried all the types of blood pressure reducing medication but with no effect. I don't smoke and gave up drinking and smoking in 1994 but started again last year as I would rather live my final years however many they may be doing what makes me happy. But I think my rules of thumb is what have kept me alive when the doctors wrote me off (And are still doing).
I have many rules of thumb. The milk marketing board, the many food marketing boards like meat and veg are all very powerful and convince us we need 5,7,9,12 (I'm different countries)fruit and veg... and meat and milk and eggs and chocolate and breakfast cereal a day and we buy it.
Don't buy it.
Breakfast is the most profitable meal of the day so skip it if you want a healthy bank balance.
All dairy products produce a mini high the same as heroin.
Meat can change your mind and make you risk your life while simultaneously shortening your life anyway.
Everything edible has a built in reflex defence attack mechanism that stops you from living solely on it, everything evolves that way for survival. Eat only rabbits and you die of vitamin deficiency, eat only anything and you will die of something it evolved to kill you for eating it. So to rule number one.
Don't eat much and vary it. As my mum says 'everything in moderation'.
Less processed the better if they remove something or add something then we haven't evolved to expect that.
Don't eat breakfast. This is mine as I do intermittent fasting and eat and drink alcohol up to going to bed so my fasting window starts as I go to sleep so must continue as I wake up most mornings. (Some days require a fuck it Eat and cup of tea, not only because I have an autistic daughter and my wife is leaving me)
Don't eat fruit. Fruit contains fructose, one of the worst sugars for your body and most addictive. It's defence mechanism.
Give in to what you crave a little now and then. Your body is amazing and has evolved to know what is in each of the foods you have ever tasted and what you are running low on. Also life Isn't just about health and efficiency.
Try and eat a rainbow as the vitamins, minerals and micro/macro-biome/nutrients that your body needs to be healthy is all colours.
7.etc Future edits to be filled in when I'm not so on my drink.
Answered by Colin Ellis on August 23, 2021
Nikki's answer is really good; Michael Pollan said this in a book and the MOOC Stanford Introduction to Health & Nutrition.
Enough calories gets enough protein, enough fiber so ya poop, enough fat to absorb vitamins A, D, E and K and ... follow the national dietary recommendations:
Protein - One cup cooked beans = two servings - legumes (peanuts, chickpeas, lentils, peas)
Nuts - 1/4 cup almonds (1.15 oz) - 1/8 cup pecans (0.52 oz) - 1/8 cup walnuts (0.52 oz) = 2.19 servings
Plant milk - 1.75+1.75 = 3.5 serving of soy milk
Veggies - 1 serving/cup green leafy salad - 2 more servings for lunch - 2 servings for supper - two whole carrots - 1/3 medium avocado - cup broccoli - cup potato - cup tomato - 8 Brussels sprouts - 1/2 cup cooked or cup raw mushrooms
Fruit - Select two: apple, banana or two kiwis + dried mangos/apricot (with the nuts)
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Answered by adamaero on August 23, 2021
A common rule of thumb I've always heard is by Michael Pollan, a food author:
Eat food, not too much, mostly plants.
Specifically:
Source: WedMD
Answered by Nikki on August 23, 2021
Nature is revealing the best practice to eat correctly. Here are my observations:
These are my observations in nature and in archaic sacred societies, where people are connected with nature and live healthy.
Answered by eapo on August 23, 2021
Except for vitamin B12 and vitamin D, you're going to get everything you need provided you get most of your calories from a wide variety of fruits, vegetables, and grains. What is not good is to use a supplement to correct for a deficiency (except for vitamin D and vitamin B12) and then think that you've plugged all holes in your diet. The essential vitamins, minerals, amino acids,etc. are just the tip of the iceberg; for optimal health a lot more compounds are needed than can be found on any list of RDAs of vitamins, minerals, amino acids and essential fats.
We need to consider here that science hasn't yet identified all the compounds our bodies need. E.g. celiac patients who's intestines are so damaged that they need to get supplements via IV, only thrive when given whole food extracts. If they only get a mix of the known nutrients they don't do as well. The difference is then due to the likely large number of compounds in whole foods that has yet to be identified as necessary for the human body.
Suppose that 200 years from now scientists will have identified every last compound you need to eat with their RDAs. If there are 1000 items on that list and today we only have an incomplete list of, say, 25 items with their RDAs, then it's obviously impossible to check if a diet is adequate today. However, there is a statistical trick you can use to guess whether a diet is likely to be deficient according to the unknown list of 1000 compounds.
This works by checking if the 25 compounds in a diet are coming from a wide variety of food sources, here you pay attention to how close different plants are related to each other and also the similarities in the entire profile of the 25 compounds. So, two food sources that are rich in calcium should be considered to be more different if they come from different plants that have different profiles for the other compounds.
Suppose that your diet is not so optimal according to the above criterion, a few of the 25 compounds only come from 3 reasonably independent sources. Then it's a forgone conclusion that your diet will lack many of the 1000 compounds of the unknown list. If you put the compound that comes from the largest number of independent sources on top and below that the compound that comes from the next larger number and so on, then item number 25 of the old list will appear somewhere at the bottom of the new list, but it's likely not going to be the last item of the new list. So, it's quite likely that you are missing quite a few nutrients that are necessary for optimal health.
An effective way to boost the quantity of nutrient intake is to eliminate all sources of empty calories like refined sugars and fats and to get all your calories and essential fats from whole food sources. So, no cooking oil should be used, one should instead eat nuts and seeds. Also, by exercising a lot one can increase the calorie requirement thereby boosting the nutrient intake.
Answered by Count Iblis on August 23, 2021
I ran my personal best of 2:49 at the Boston Marathon after one year of training under a pretty strict vegan diet. (I'm still vegan but running less these days). My diet wasn't complicated at all, I had three rules of thumb:
This is just what worked for me.YMMV. I did some research at the time, but I can't be bothered right now to digg up any references. What was important for me was to keep it simple and to rely only on the absolutely necessary substitutes (B12). There's no point in a sophisticated and scientifically approved diet that you won't realistically implement.
Answered by henning on August 23, 2021
I am not sure if the French can claim to have started the 5 a day rule - it seems to be fairly universal. As long as you eat a balanced diet including foods that contain protein (beans are an excellent choice here), carbs are also needed, then you should be alright. Eating your five a day is a great way to get vitamins, but what about that all-elusive vitamin B12? You state that you are vegetarian/vegan, so eggs, are they off the menu or not, if not then there is a good source of vitamin B12, and the same goes for cheese. Here is a great table for reference. Here is what the vegan society says about B12. And a bit more info about finding a vegan B12 here.
What about the vitamin D? Well, sunlight is a great start (avoid burning obviously), but if you don't get enough then try this great chart (too much to print here).
Answered by dougal 5.0.0 on August 23, 2021
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