Science Fiction & Fantasy Asked on February 21, 2021
Can someone tell me what order should the Babylon 5 movies be watched, so as to get the best out of them as a whole while watching the series?
I know that release date isn’t the best way to do this as they sometimes have to release movies earlier than they’d like to fit in with channel scheduling etc.
From the episode list at The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
That list provides the chronological order of the storyline for the episodes as well as the movies, as indicated by JMS. (Some episodes vary slightly with the release dates and the chronological ordering intended)
Correct answer by NominSim on February 21, 2021
Best movie order is as follows:
Mo matter what "Sleeping In Light" should be watched absolutely LAST.
Answered by Scott Taylor on February 21, 2021
Just a LITTLE correction to the answers above...
In "Thirdspace", Zack is seen fully wearing and sporting an alternative B5 uniform just like Sheridan and the rest. This, however, is not a formally accepted fact until S4 E09 (the beginning scene).
I would thus respectfully suggest that for the sake of consistency that instead of watching "Thirdspace" after S4 E08 to instead watch it after S4 E09.
I know, trivial detail but...
Answered by Ruben on February 21, 2021
As Ruben said, Zack doesn't get his alternative B5 uniform till 'S4E9 - Atonement' so Thirdspace should slot in after that.
Also, If you're trying to be as chronologically accurate as possible (Though I do agree that 'In the Beginning' should be saved till late in S4 to avoid spoilers) you should save 'S5E22 - Sleeping in Light' till after all of the films and episodes as it takes place much later chronologically.
EDIT:
I'm actually doing a re-watch of B5 right now and I realised that theoretically Thirdspace has to slot in later than I previously thought.
Most people say between E8 & E9 but as stated above, because of Zack's uniform it can't be before E9. However, after watching through a bit more I realised that Dr Franklin is away from B5 from E9 through E12 and only gets back on station in E13. So though it's later on in the season, assuming Zack's uniform wasn't just a continuity error, Thirdspace should slot in somewhere after E13 - 'Conflicts of Interest' but before the campaign to remove Clarke.
Answered by DisFanJen on February 21, 2021
This is too big for a comment, so I'm posting it as another answer:
If you plan on watching the Crusade spinoff, don't watch it in airdate order. I strongly, strongly suggest chronological order - it resolves most of the inconsistencies TNT created when they started interfering with the series, and the character development makes a hell of a lot more sense:
Basically, 5 episodes of Crusade were produced with minimal meddling. Then filming went on hiatus while the budget was increased and better sets/etc were made - and TNT's meddling went crazy.
For example, episodes numbered 1x09 - 1x13 use the original, low-budget uniforms. After the budget was increased, TNT mandated that the high-budget new uniforms be aired first - so they became episodes 1x01 - 1x08. Appearances and Other Deceits had an in-universe designer create the old uniforms as a new design, then one of the unfilmed episodes would have a laundry accident that "returned" them to the new, high-budget uniforms seen in the others. Since that episode was never filmed, we can imagine it happens between Each Night I Dream of Home and The Path of Sorrows, when the chronological ordering switches the uniforms back.
Other much more spoilery advantages to this order include:
Among others.
(To be perfectly honest, I almost suggest skipping Crusade altogether. Episode 1x14 was planned to be its version of Signs and Portents, launching the true storyline of the series... So what did manage to get filmed largely feels like a teaser to something that will never happen. Very frustrating.)
Answered by Izkata on February 21, 2021
I'm watching based on the printed list and not the graphic (the graphic is wrong on several key points).
A call To Arms is happening 6 years after the Shadow War, so it would be 2267. It should be one of the last movies watched.
The Legend of the Rangers talks about the Anniversary of the Alliance. There is also another problem in that the ship they're on lost it's crew 20 years prior, and there were Human Rangers on board. This totally messes with the Timeline, and G'kar should be dead by this time. Horrible continuity besides being a very cheesy show. I had remembered it being kind of good until watching it again last night and lost it when watching the weapons officer doing the 30 second scream while shadow boxing in VR. It's bad.
For the sake of continuity it should be considered "alternate universe" since none of the rangers act ranger-like.
My take right now would be watching season 5 until Objects at rest. Watch River of Souls, A Call To Arms, Crusade, Lost Tales, and then the final episode. After all that, then Legend of the Rangers, despite how bad it is.
Answered by Shatter on February 21, 2021
You can do no harm to yourself starting with "In The Beginning." Aside from the obviously harmless title, the movie was made to introduce new viewers to the show when it was picked up by TNT at the beginning of the fifth season. TNT showed seasons 1-4 in progression once a day for five days a week, with a new fifth season episode at a different time slot once a week. There are thousands of people who watched the show, enjoyed it, and became hooked by it while watching it in this nonlinear fashion, including yours truly.
Rather than be spoiled by something, you will have an even greater insight into the genius of Babylon 5 storytelling. It's the belief that one viewing order is better than another that may spoil the show!
Also don't forget about the novels, several of which are considered canon, especially The Shadow Within and To Dream in the City of Sorrows, which are seamlessly interwoven with the show. Please feel free to pick them up and put them down as you feel to achieve their maximum effect!
Answered by AtlasMickey on February 21, 2021
Personally I think you should follow the release order as much as possible, with only a few modifications. Following the release order means you will get the same experience as people watching the show at the time of release. When creating a new episode/film, the creators largely catered towards audiences who had already watched everything released up to that point, and so you should be on fairly safe ground.
The exceptions I think should be made are:
In summary, I think the following order should be used:
I understand why other posters have shuffled around "Objects In Motion" and "Objects At Rest" towards the end also as these are "goodbye" episodes. However, they also naturally follow from the earlier episodes in season 5 and wrap up the storyline in 2262 (the year when the majority of season 5 is set) which is before all of the later-released films. The same cannot be said for "Sleeping In Light" which is set much later. So I think "Objects In Motion" and "Objects At Rest" should really be watched immediately after watching the main part of season 5.
Answered by Kidburla on February 21, 2021
Unfortunately the assigned episode numbers, release dates, and production numbers do not match the intended viewing order of the show's creator, J Michael Straczynski (JMS).
The Intended Order for all TV Episodes and Movies as listed below is the order that JMS intended the show to be viewed in for full dramatic impact. This viewing order was taken from JMS's interviews, notes, and discussions. This is not a chronological order of events, and not everything is meant to make sense at first as some episodes have flashbacks and visions of things. This order (including the very similar Lurker's Guide) is popular among devoted fans.
Source 1: https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Viewing_Order
Source 2: http://www.b5tv.com/showthread.php?t=11675
Note: For the Crusade spin-off the Chronological Order option is listed below as it is enjoyable and popular among devoted fans without continuity issues or jarring inconsistencies. This Crusade order is from the Babylon 5 Historical Database as authorized by JMS, with one adjustment to correct a continuity issue in "Ruling From the Tomb".
Episode Name | Intended Order | Episode # | Release Date |
---|---|---|---|
The Gathering (Movie) *A | 1 | N/A | 1993-02-22 |
Midnight on the Firing Line | 2 | 1x01 | 1994-01-26 |
Soul Hunter | 3 | 1x02 | 1994-02-02 |
Born to the Purple | 4 | 1x03 | 1994-02-09 |
Infection | 5 | 1x04 | 1994-02-16 |
The Parliament of Dreams | 6 | 1x05 | 1994-02-23 |
Mind War | 7 | 1x06 | 1994-03-02 |
The War Prayer | 8 | 1x07 | 1994-03-09 |
And the Sky Full of Stars | 9 | 1x08 | 1994-03-16 |
Deathwalker | 10 | 1x09 | 1994-04-20 |
Believers | 11 | 1x10 | 1994-04-27 |
Survivors | 12 | 1x11 | 1994-05-04 |
By Any Means Necessary | 13 | 1x12 | 1994-05-11 |
Signs and Portents | 14 | 1x13 | 1994-05-18 |
Grail | 15 | 1x15 | 1994-07-06 |
Eyes | 16 | 1x16 | 1994-07-13 |
A Voice in the Wilderness, Part I | 17 | 1x18 | 1994-07-27 |
A Voice in the Wilderness, Part II | 18 | 1x19 | 1994-08-03 |
Babylon Squared | 19 | 1x20 | 1994-08-10 |
The Quality of Mercy | 20 | 1x21 | 1994-08-17 |
TKO | 21 | 1x14 | 1994-05-25 |
Legacies | 22 | 1x17 | 1994-07-20 |
Chrysalis | 23 | 1x22 | 1994-10-26 |
Points of Departure | 24 | 2x01 | 1994-11-02 |
Revelations | 25 | 2x02 | 1994-11-09 |
The Geometry of Shadows | 26 | 2x03 | 1994-11-16 |
A Distant Star | 27 | 2x04 | 1994-11-23 |
The Long Dark | 28 | 2x05 | 1994-11-30 |
A Spider in the Web | 29 | 2x06 | 1994-12-07 |
A Race Through Dark Places | 30 | 2x08 | 1995-01-25 |
Soul Mates | 31 | 2x07 | 1994-12-14 |
The Coming of Shadows | 32 | 2x09 | 1995-02-01 |
GROPOS | 33 | 2x10 | 1995-02-08 |
All Alone in the Night | 34 | 2x11 | 1995-02-15 |
Acts of Sacrifice | 35 | 2x12 | 1995-02-22 |
Hunter, Prey | 36 | 2x13 | 1995-03-01 |
There All the Honor Lies | 37 | 2x14 | 1995-04-26 |
And Now For a Word | 38 | 2x15 | 1995-05-03 |
Knives | 39 | 2x17 | 1995-05-17 |
In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum | 40 | 2x16 | 1995-05-10 |
Confessions and Lamentations | 41 | 2x18 | 1995-05-24 |
Divided Loyalties | 42 | 2x19 | 1995-10-11 |
The Long, Twilight Struggle | 43 | 2x20 | 1995-10-18 |
Comes the Inquisitor | 44 | 2x21 | 1995-10-25 |
The Fall of Night | 45 | 2x22 | 1995-11-01 |
Matters of Honor | 46 | 3x01 | 1995-11-06 |
Convictions | 47 | 3x02 | 1995-11-13 |
A Day in the Strife | 48 | 3x03 | 1995-11-20 |
Passing Through Gethsemane | 49 | 3x04 | 1995-11-27 |
Voices of Authority | 50 | 3x05 | 1996-01-29 |
Dust to Dust | 51 | 3x06 | 1996-02-05 |
Exogenesis | 52 | 3x07 | 1996-02-12 |
Messages from Earth | 53 | 3x08 | 1996-02-19 |
Point of No Return | 54 | 3x09 | 1996-02-26 |
Severed Dreams | 55 | 3x10 | 1996-04-01 |
Ceremonies of Light and Dark | 56 | 3x11 | 1996-04-08 |
A Late Delivery from Avalon | 57 | 3x13 | 1996-04-22 |
Sic Transit Vir | 58 | 3x12 | 1996-04-15 |
Ship of Tears | 59 | 3x14 | 1996-04-29 |
Interludes and Examinations | 60 | 3x15 | 1996-05-06 |
Walkabout | 61 | 3x18 | 1996-09-30 |
War Without End, Part I | 62 | 3x16 | 1996-05-13 |
War Without End, Part II | 63 | 3x17 | 1996-05-20 |
Grey 17 is Missing | 64 | 3x19 | 1996-10-07 |
And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place | 65 | 3x20 | 1996-10-14 |
Shadow Dancing | 66 | 3x21 | 1996-10-21 |
Z'ha'dum | 67 | 3x22 | 1996-10-28 |
The Hour of the Wolf | 68 | 4x01 | 1996-11-04 |
Whatever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi? | 69 | 4x02 | 1996-11-11 |
The Summoning | 70 | 4x03 | 1996-11-18 |
Falling Toward Apotheosis | 71 | 4x04 | 1996-11-25 |
The Long Night | 72 | 4x05 | 1997-01-27 |
Into the Fire | 73 | 4x06 | 1997-02-03 |
Epiphanies | 74 | 4x07 | 1997-02-10 |
The Illusion of Truth | 75 | 4x08 | 1997-02-17 |
Thirdspace (Movie) | 76 | N/A | 1998-07-19 |
Atonement *A | 77 | 4x09 | 1997-02-24 |
Racing Mars | 78 | 4x10 | 1997-04-21 |
Lines of Communication | 79 | 4x11 | 1997-04-28 |
Conflicts of Interest | 80 | 4x12 | 1997-05-05 |
Rumors, Bargains and Lies | 81 | 4x13 | 1997-05-12 |
Moments of Transition | 82 | 4x14 | 1997-05-19 |
No Surrender, No Retreat | 83 | 4x15 | 1997-05-26 |
The Exercise of Vital Powers | 84 | 4x16 | 1997-06-02 |
The Face of the Enemy | 85 | 4x17 | 1997-06-09 |
Intersections in Real Time | 86 | 4x18 | 1997-06-16 |
Between the Darkness and the Light | 87 | 4x19 | 1997-10-06 |
Endgame | 88 | 4x20 | 1997-10-13 |
Rising Star *B | 89 | 4x21 | 1997-10-20 |
No Compromises | 90 | 5x01 | 1998-01-21 |
The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari | 91 | 5x02 | 1998-01-28 |
The Paragon of Animals | 92 | 5x03 | 1998-02-04 |
A View from the Gallery | 93 | 5x04 | 1998-02-11 |
Learning Curve | 94 | 5x05 | 1998-02-18 |
Strange Relations | 95 | 5x06 | 1998-02-25 |
Secrets of the Soul | 96 | 5x07 | 1998-03-04 |
In the Kingdom of the Blind | 97 | 5x08 | 1998-03-18 |
A Tragedy of Telepaths | 98 | 5x09 | 1998-03-25 |
Phoenix Rising | 99 | 5x11 | 1998-04-01 |
The Ragged Edge | 100 | 5x12 | 1998-04-08 |
Day of the Dead | 101 | 5x10 | 1998-03-11 |
The Corps is Mother, the Corps is Father | 102 | 5x13 | 1998-04-15 |
Meditations on the Abyss | 103 | 5x14 | 1998-05-27 |
Darkness Ascending | 104 | 5x15 | 1998-06-03 |
And All My Dreams, Torn Asunder | 105 | 5x16 | 1998-06-10 |
Movements of Fire and Shadow | 106 | 5x17 | 1998-06-17 |
The Fall of Centauri Prime | 107 | 5x18 | 1998-10-28 |
Wheel of Fire | 108 | 5x19 | 1998-11-04 |
Objects in Motion | 109 | 5x20 | 1998-11-11 |
Objects at Rest *C | 110 | 5x21 | 1998-11-18 |
The River of Souls (Movie) | 111 | N/A | 1998-11-08 |
Legend of the Rangers: To Live and Die in Starlight (Movie) | 112 | N/A | 2002-01-19 |
A Call to Arms (Movie) | 113 | N/A | 1999-01-03 |
War Zone | 114 | C1x01 | 1999-06-09 |
The Long Road | 115 | C1x02 | 1999-06-16 |
Ruling from the Tomb | 116 | C1x06 | 1999-07-14 |
Appearances and Other Deceits | 117 | C1x08 | 1999-07-28 |
The Memory of War | 118 | C1x10 | 1999-08-11 |
The Needs of Earth | 119 | C1x11 | 1999-08-18 |
Racing the Night | 120 | C1x09 | 1999-08-04 |
Visitors from Down the Street | 121 | C1x12 | 1999-08-25 |
Each Night I Dream of Home | 122 | C1x13 | 1999-09-01 |
The Path of Sorrows | 123 | C1x04 | 1999-06-30 |
Patterns of the Soul | 124 | C1x05 | 1999-07-07 |
The Well of Forever | 125 | C1x03 | 1999-06-23 |
The Rules of the Game | 126 | C1x07 | 1999-07-21 |
The Lost Tales - Voices in the Dark (Movie) | 127 | N/A | 2007-07-27 |
In the Beginning (Movie) *A | 128 | N/A | 1/4/1998 |
Sleeping in Light *C | 129 | 5x22 | 1998-11-25 |
The Deconstruction of Falling Stars *B | 130 | 4x22 | 1997-10-27 |
*There are three decision points indicated with asterisks in the chart based on your personal viewing preference.
Additionally, the other popular Babylon 5 Viewing Orders for all TV Episodes and Movies are listed here: https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Viewing_Order - This includes episode by episode lists with descriptions and comparisons for each order. The Chronological Order is a notable and very enjoyable alternative to the Intended Order.
Answered by Kyle on February 21, 2021
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