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Puzzling Asked on September 4, 2021

I heard this from an elderly German gentleman with a strong accent. At first I thought he was reciting a Robert Frost poem, but then the last line confused me.

Some see de earth vill end times four,
Some see de t’rice.
From vot I’ve tasted of de four times,
I and zose who know for whom it vas.
But if I must perish twice …

I am enough of ‘ate
To see zat it is for destruction
Zat de ozzer is really won.
Now, vhich is vorth most?

What is really going on here?


Hint:


Inspired by both [Robert Frost](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_and_Ice_(poem)) and [xkcd](https://xkcd.com/312/) via the [current Topic Challenge](https://puzzling.meta.stackexchange.com/q/6352/5373).

8 Answers

Here's my attempt!

Some see de earth vill end times four,

Some see de t'rice.

From vot I've tasted of de four times,

I and zose who know for whom it vas.

But if I must perish twice ...

I am enough of 'ate

To see zat it is for destruction

Zat de ozzer is really won.

Now, vhich is vorth most?

Answered by kristinalustig on September 4, 2021

Here some of an attempt heavily inspired by other posts

I number the lines of the poem

(1)Some see de earth vill end times four,
(2)Some see de t'rice.
(3)From vot I've tasted of de four times,
(4)I and zose who know for whom it vas.
(5)But if I must perish twice ...

(6)I am enough of 'ate
(7)To see zat it is for destruction
(8)Zat de ozzer is really won.
(9)Now, vhich is vorth most?

Here are my best interpretations

Here are some notes on myanswer

! I believe the German accent hint is being overlooked by other answers, and that too many words are being left out. I think the first line must be "some $C$ $D$ is equal $N$ times four". I think the third line must be "from that I've taken off $D$ four times". My solution definitely goes wrong at "I and zose who know for whom it vas". But I do think this is introducing a new unknown, "I" sound is pronounced as $E$. I think it is too much of a coincidence that "E" is next free letter after $C$ and $D$.


Update: due to hint

Answered by Mark Murray on September 4, 2021

First paragraph:

Second paragraph:

Answered by Shirogane on September 4, 2021

Updated to a full answer based on What Philipp already began. Also based on two comments by Rand regarding "arithmetic" and how many words can be represented by letters and numbers.. And trying to think of the simplest and most literal of solutions..

Answered by mkinson on September 4, 2021

I really have no idea what the solution could be, but since nobody has mentioned it so far, and since it may help others to find the actual answer, I’ll add this little piece:

The whole puzzle would look something like this:

Another, more unlikely substitution:

I still cannot figure out the whole, though.

Answered by Philipp on September 4, 2021

Rand'll responded with a hint so here is a guess:

Why?

From vot I've tasted of de four times, I and zose who know for whom it vas. But if I must perish twice ...

I am enough of 'ate

To see zat it is for destruction

Zat de ozzer is really won.

Now, vhich is vorth most?

Old thoughts:

Answered by David Foong on September 4, 2021

Answered by Josh Oliver on September 4, 2021

Since there is no answer yet, I'm just gonna write this out

Answered by nikki on September 4, 2021

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