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The ferries over Mississippi

Puzzling Asked by Pspl on September 4, 2021

Here’s an old challenge from an old book (I think it goes like this, if I remember well):

There is a place on Mississippi river between Missouri and Kentucky where are two ferry boats: the vintage Old Town and the modern president. One time, exactly at the same time, the Old Town left the Missouri shore and the president left the Kentucky shore.

The ferries over Mississippi

Each ferry traveled at a fixed velocity and, after a while, they intersected each other 9000 feet from Missouri. When they arrived to the other side, they didn’t waste any time and immediately started the journey back to intersect each other 3000 feet from Kentucky.

QUESTION #1:
What is the width of the river on the site where this story takes place?

QUESTION #2:
How far away from Kentucky will they intersect for the third time?

EDIT:
For those who voted to close this question, this is NOT a mathematics problem. It’s a mathematics puzzle. At least it’s from an old book of puzzles (which title I honesty can’t remember). You can’t solve it by the use of conventional formulas like velocity or others. Can you at least leave a comment?

2 Answers

Here is a simple argument to deduce the solution to the first question without much arithmetic.

The second question is not quite as nice, but now we know the width of the river and the relative speed of the boats, so it can all be calculated fairly easily.

Correct answer by Jaap Scherphuis on September 4, 2021

[Revised to cover both parts of the puzzle, beginning with the original post.]

While the puzzle has already been completely solved by Jaap Scherphuis a geometric approach works very nicely for the puzzle’s first part that asks for the width of the river. As time flows downward (as well as downstream if the ferries are carried by a current, thanks to Pspl’s observation, the same diagrams apply) on these graphs the trajectory of the slower ferry looks steeper than that of the faster ferry.

Begin by representing the first and second meetings of the ferries. Notice that the first meeting forms a triangle.

Now unfold the graph of the second meeting by interpreting each ferry’s turnaround at a bank as reflection off of a mirror. Note the large triangle formed by this unfolded second meeting.

Flipping that second-meeting triangle horizontally reveals it to be congruent to the first-meeting triangle and 3 times its size. The calculation of the river’s width may now be completed by breaking 3 copies of the first triangle and rearranging the pieces.

[The rest was added a day later.]

To find the third meeting point begins with unfolding a diagram that assumes that the faster ferry will overtake the slower ferry after bouncing off the Kentucky shore.

This is now equivalent to a race where the faster ferry catches the slower ferry, which begins with a one river-width head start. The meeting point may be found by forming a parallelogram whose base is the by-now-known width of the river, sides are the path of the slower ferry and long diagonal is the faster ferry’s path.

There’s the first meeting’s triangle again, along with its left-to-right reflection, helping to form and measure a pair of right triangles geometrically similar to those that define the parallelogram’s sides and long diagonal.

Answered by humn on September 4, 2021

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