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Is translation of position vectors allowed?

Physics Asked by Jeet Bhattacharjee on April 21, 2021

I have read that position vectors represent certain specific points in three dimensional space. So, therefore, translation of position vectors must not be allowed. Since, in any case it’s done, it will represent a different position thereby violating its fundamental meaning. Furthermore, mathematically, this would also violate the representation of complex numbers using vector representation, since it would change the complex number.

I would like to have some insight into this matter. Thanks for an answer in advance.

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An absolute position vector represents the position of an object relative to a given origin. It is a bound vector because it depends on where we place the origin of our co-ordinate system - if we translate the origin but keep the object fixed then its position vector changes.

By contrast, a free vector is the same regardless of where the origin is. The position of one object relative to another object is a free vector. This is because it actually represents the difference of two bound vectors (the absolute position of each object is a bound vector). If we translate the origin then the change in one bound vector is offset by the change in the other, and the relative position vector does not change.

Another example of a free vector is the moment of a couple (a pair of equal and opposite forces acting at different points). This is the difference of two bound vectors (the moments of the two individual forces about the origin) so it is the same regardless of where we place the origin of our co-ordinate system.

Correct answer by gandalf61 on April 21, 2021

I have read that position vectors represent certain specific points in three dimensional space

They do not by themselves, as they are really displacement vectors from origin of coordinate system.

If you have point $A$ and "position" vector $vec{v}$, then this defines new point $B$ by prescription $B=A + vec{v}$, since classical space is really an affine space. You simply need an origin to get a point.

The "translation" of vectors is nothing but statement that in affine space the vector $vec{v}$ can be added to whatever point and that all displacement vectors $B-A$ are from the same vector space. This is not so in curved space, where each vector lives in its own tangent space. I have recently written an answer to clarify how "translation" of vectors comes about from flat space special structure. Might be also of some relevance.

Answered by Umaxo on April 21, 2021

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