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Is there any shortcoming of the Langevin equation which is solved by its generalization?

Physics Asked on June 27, 2021

The ordinary Langevin equation describing the velocity $v(t)$ of a Brownian particle of mass $M$ in a fluid bath in equilibrium at a fixed temperature reads $$Mfrac{dv}{dt}=-Mgamma v(t)+zeta(t)+F_{rm ext}(t).tag{1}$$ This equation is often superseded by the generalized Langevin equation $$Mfrac{dv}{dt}=-Mintlimits_{-infty}^{t}alpha(t-t’) v(t’)dt’+zeta(t)+F_{rm ext}(t)tag{2}$$ where $zeta(t)$ is a delta-correlated stationary Gaussian process with zero-mean. With $alpha(t-t’)=gammadelta(t-t’)$, Eq.$(2)$ reduces to the ordinary form given by Eq.$(1)$.

Is there any unphysical feature or serious shortcoming of Eq.$(1)$ which is taken care of in Eq.$(2)$? This could motivate the use of Eq.$(2)$ instead of Eq.$(1)$.

2 Answers

The motivation for using the generalized Langevin equation with memory kernel $alpha(t-t')$ is the desire to include so-called memory effects, in which the evolution of the quantity of interest depends on its past states. This could be useful in a number of contexts - this recent paper suggests that the dynamics of phase transitions could be understood in terms of the (generalized) Langevin dynamics of the order parameter, and for reference I believe this 1961 paper by Robert Zwanzig is the paper which first generalized the Langevin equation to include temporal non-locality.

This thesis (which, in the interest of full disclosure, I have only skimmed briefly) appears to address the generalized Langevin equation and some contexts in which it is useful for generalized Brownian motion.

Correct answer by J. Murray on June 27, 2021

I agree with the answer by @JMurray, but I would like to stress that Langevin equation (and more generally Brownian motion) is not a physical system, but a mathematical approach, applicable to a multitude of physical situations: chemical reactions, cold atoms, electrons in a metal, nanomechanical pendulums, etc. Claiming that for all these diverse systems the dissipation is always frequency independent and the noise is always white (gaussian and delta correlated) would be a very strong and likely incorrect claim. In fact, this is certainly incorrect at high frequencies.

Just to clarify: by frequency-dependent dissipation I mean that $alpha(t)$ is not constant, as can be seen, if we Fourier (more precisely Laplace) transform the Langevin equation.

Note also that dissipation is a response of the bath, related to its correlation function via the fluctuation-dissipation theorem - which is more fundamental than Langevin equation. In many cases both are derived from the microscopic properties of the bath, rather than postulated ad-hoc, so there is no guarantee that they behave "nicely".

Answered by Roger Vadim on June 27, 2021

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