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If any, what would be the ideal modulation frequency for a phase-sensitive light sensing experiment in a non-dark environment?

Physics Asked by Brian Gawlik on November 11, 2020

I have constructed some equipment for sensing a beam of light. The equipment is enclosed in a rudimentary darkbox to block out the majority of the ambient room lighting, but is still partially exposed. In order to isolate the beam from the ambient lighting we are modulating the beam with an optical chopper and sensing it with a phase-sensitive detector (lock-in amplifier).

I’m trying to identify the ideal modulation frequency of the chopper in order to avoid sources of noise in the environment. So far I have tried to avoid multiples of 60 Hz to account for the electrical lines and fluorescent lighting in the room. I have tried using 1039 Hz on the basis of it being a prime number, but the ambient lighting is clearly still having some influence, because the reading changes significantly depending on how open/closed the darkbox is. This may not be an issue of modulation frequency at all; maybe it has something to do with the dynamic reserve of the lock-in amplifier.

I’m hoping someone around here might have worked with a similar set up before and can inform from their experience.

3 Answers

Do you have access to a dynamic signal analyzer or similar? My most recent setup involves locking in to a signal from a split photodiode that is either singly or doubly modulated. We chose our base modulation frequency by looking at the noise spectrum -- our photodiode when illuminated with a DC signal looks something like this:

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There's a ton of low-frequency noise including 60 Hz main noise and few-Hz from mechanical vibrations in our system. If the fluorescent lights are on we sometimes see signals at strange frequencies from those. The way we are doing our modulation scales poorly beyond about 10 kHz, so that was an upper limit. Because of this, we run our signal through a high-pass preamp with 12 dB/octave falloff. Then the signal response looks like

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and we modulate at around 5 kHz which is safely above the high-pass but not so high that we lose modulation power. This might be overkill for your situation however, it's hard to say.

Answered by ARM on November 11, 2020

The psd method basically moves the signal from d.c. to some other frequency, and then is sensitive to noise at that other frequency. Therefore you pick a frequency where the noise is small. Many noise sources decrease with frequency, so often one picks as high a frequency as your detector and de-modulation stage (usually a lock-in amplifier) can handle.

Answered by Andrew Steane on November 11, 2020

From your description, it seems that your detection system is operating in a nonlinear region. Nonlinearities in the detection system will complicate things, so making sure the detector is operating in its linear range will be very important. If the detection is linear, separation of the ambient and signal beam effects should be fairly straightforward. A useful approach can be to directly measure the ambient light that leaks into your box. You can then find a way to separate the effects of your light beam and the ambient light.

Answered by S. McGrew on November 11, 2020

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