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Don't twin paradox explanations imply universal velocity/time?

Physics Asked by Justin Poirier on December 28, 2020

On the Wikipedia page for the Twin Paradox, the example lays out the perspective of each twin in turn. Both twins are portrayed as understanding the ship’s velocity as v, and the travelling twin’s sense of time is then explained by saying that the earth-distant star system, being in effect one giant object, undergoes length contraction ie the twin travels less distance, ie less time went by for the twin. But if the entire rest of the twin’s system, ie. the twin’s whole sense of distance, has shrunk, shouldn’t the twin’s sense of velocity shrink too? How can they agree on velocity but not distance, when v = d/t ? The v is relative to what?

Or are we saying that our usual sense of reality is wrong, when we think of an object’s location at a given time (absolute or otherwise) as an intrinsic truth upon which we define velocity as Δlocation/unit time, when in fact it’s the other way around and an object’s velocity is intrinsic. Are we saying velocity actually IS absolute even though time and distance aren’t?

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Suppose the stationary twin occupies the origin of our coordinates, $x=0$, and observes that the velocity of the traveling twin is $v$, in their frame. In other words, suppose that the traveling twin covers a certain distance $d$ in a certain time $t$, such that $v=d/t$. Let's find out what the travelling twin measures the stationary twin's velocity to be, by directly applying a Lorentz transformation, boosting to a frame with velocity $v$:

$$x'=gamma(x-vt)$$

$$t'=gamma(t-vx/c^2)$$

The stationary twin is at the origin of our original coordinates, so plugging in $x=0$, we get the coordinates of the stationary twin in the traveling twin's frame:

$$x'=-gamma vt$$

$$t'=gamma t$$

Now let's calculate the velocity of the stationary twin in this frame:

$$v'=frac{x'}{t'}=frac{-gamma v t}{gamma t}=-v$$

In other words, the velocities observed by each twin for the other are equal and opposite. The effects of time dilation and length contraction exactly cancel out.

Correct answer by probably_someone on December 28, 2020

To answer your title question: no. The twin's paradox resolution is that the traveling twin has to change inertial reference frames to come back home, so the scenario is not symmetric between the two twins. Just because there is a different outcome for each twin does not mean there is a universal time and special relativity is wrong.

To get to the body of your question, both twins agree on the relative velocity between their own frames. As a hand-wavy argument, you seem to be focusing on how they disagree about distances, but they will also disagree about time intervals as well. Since velocity depends on both distances and time intervals, these effects essentially "cancel out" when looking at relative velocities. A more precise handling of this can be found on probably_someone's answer.

This doesn't mean velocity is absolute; velocities are still relative. You always have to specify a velocity with respect to something. It is just that if I am considering my velocity relative to you, and you are considering your velocity relative to me, then we will find these velocities to be equal and opposite. However, your velocity relative to some other observer does not need to be the same as your velocity relative to me. In general it won't be, unless that third observer happens to be at rest relative to me.

Answered by BioPhysicist on December 28, 2020

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