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Does velocity add like vectors?

Physics Asked by Curiouser and curiouser on March 24, 2021

In the arrangement shown in the figure, the ends P and Q of an unstretchable string move downwards with uniform speed V. Pulleys A and B are fixed. What will be the velocity of Mass M?

The answer is $frac V {costheta}$. I’ve seen the solution of this problem in many websites, and I understand the method. But my problem is that it is easy to mistake the upward velocity of the mass M to be $2Vcostheta$, which is wrong. Although I understand the right method, I’m still not able to get perfect clarity on why $2vcostheta$ won’t work here. If someone can, please explain the contradiction in detail with examples.
What if this mass is pulled by two bikes, each moving at a velocity V, with an angle of separation $2theta$? Would the velocity of the mass be still $frac V {costheta}$?
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4 Answers

In this problem, you are not concerned with the vector sum of the two tensions, only with the relative velocities. For that you can work with just one side.

Answered by R.W. Bird on March 24, 2021

This kind of diagram is often used to study forces. Forces do add like you are thinking.

But this is velocity. Consider the case where $Theta = 0$, and the pulleys are right next to each other. If P and Q drop as distance, you would expect M to rise the same distance because the string stays the same length.

Answered by mmesser314 on March 24, 2021

Forces can't like vectors however the velocity does not.

The velocity of the block will be the same as the velocity of the piece of rope attached to it. The velocity of the vertically hanging strand is equal to the rate at which the whole rope overhanging a pulley is moving up.

If the $ 2v cos theta$ was the velocity of the block, then it would mean that the block is moving faster up than the rope is going up!

Comparison with boat problems, in the boat problems it's like the river acts like an escalator (Know the one in airports?) so that either boosts the speed of the boat or reduces it. Here it is different because the object is constrained to move at the same velocity as the rope for a physical situation. THe closest analogy I can think of is a paper boat moving at the same speed as a river flows.

Answered by Buraian on March 24, 2021

You see the addition of velocities is done when you are changing reference frames, but in this case the velocity of the mass is the upward velocity of the point to which it is attached. Hope this explains your doubt

Answered by SK Dash on March 24, 2021

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