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Confusion regarding centrifugal force

Physics Asked by Prateek Mourya on January 31, 2021

In this https://youtu.be/YCrFwQtW5o0 sir took a disk and demonstrated that the particles kept on it fly away due to centrifugal force.

Now, suppose I take a ring in free space and a placed particle in its interior
(Not on circumference).

If we observe it from a frame of reference of the ring, since ring is rotating the particle must experience a centrifugal force and hence it will fly off.

But from space frame, it doesn’t.

Why does this happen?

I am also attaching a picture of my demonstration.

In the picture there are two scenarios first is the same as shown in the video .

In the second picture will the particle experience a centrifugal force or is it n it is necessary that the particles must somehow interact with the rotating frame to experience a pseudo force.
two scenarios first is the one in the video
Second is my question

One Answer

If we observe it from a frame of reference of the ring , since ring is rotating the particle must experience a centrifugal force and hence it will fly off .

But from space frame, it doesn't.

Why does this happens ?

The centrifugal force is not the only inertial force in a rotating reference frame. You are neglecting the Coriolis force. The Coriolis force is given by $$ -2 m (vec omega times vec v) $$ where $vec omega$ is the angular velocity of the rotating reference frame relative to the inertial frame and $vec v$ is the velocity in the rotating frame.

Note that your particle has a velocity of $vec v = -vec omega times vec r$. This is in the opposite direction as the centrifugal force and is twice the magnitude. So the total inertial force is centripetal and the particle undergoes uniform circular motion in the rotating frame, as expected.

It is not necessary for a particle to be in contact with anything to experience the inertial forces. They apply to all objects in the frame.

Answered by Dale on January 31, 2021

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