Physics Asked on November 6, 2021
I enjoy the occasional hot drink, but place it below a small fan in order to cool it to a drinkable temperature. Unfortunately, as expected, I commonly forget about my drink, and it ends up very cold.
In fact, it ends up so cold that it feels much colder than I would expect given my relatively warm room ($sim mathrm{25^circ C}$). However, this could be an illusion caused by room temperature still being less than body temperature, or the mug being fairly cold.
I’m wondering if the fan is able to cool the liquid below room temperature. I’m aware that evaporation works on the warmest molecules, and leaves the remaining liquid cooler, but I’m not sure that it can ever become cooler than the surrounding air temperature?
To address something nobody yet has, though not answering the question (as I can't top the others):
In fact, it ends up so cold that it feels much colder than I would expect given my relatively warm room ($sim 25^circ$). However, this could be an illusion caused by room temperature still being less than body temperature, or the mug being fairly cold.
This is indeed an illusion, but not quite the one you describe. If you walk into your kitchen after nobody's been in it for a while, it's reasonable to expect items in the kitchen are of roughly equal temperature. If you touch your wooden chopping board, it won't feel very cold at all. If you touch the metal spoon resting next to the chopping board, it will feel much colder.
This is because we sense heat (or lack thereof) based on how fast our own temperature changes. Because the wood is a poor heat-sink, it doesn't sap heat away from us very quickly, so we don't perceive it as cold. Conversely, the metal spoon saps heat away from us much faster, so it feels colder.
Tea is a good heat-sink.
Answered by Adam Barnes on November 6, 2021
As it's been asked about "fan", the fan can't cool anything by itself (imagine using a fan inside vacuum XD), it brings the fluid outside the container to motion hence helping to transfer the heat from container to the moving fluid(air in usual cases).
If we use much more cooler fluid we must be able bring down the temperature significantly.
Answered by pr0pm on November 6, 2021
A quick explanation of how evaporation cools your coffee. Let's assume that enough time has already passed so that the coffee is at room temperature. How can it get even cooler?
Although the coffee may be at room temperature overall, not all of the molecules will be at the same temperature. Some will be hotter (have more energy) and some cooler (less energy) so the overall temperature is just an average.
The molecules that break free of the liquid and evaporate will tend to be those that have the most energy. If those molecules escape completely then the average temperature of the coffee will obviously be less than it was before (as you have taken away some of the hottest molecules).
The escaping molecules will heat up the air around the coffee making it more likely that some of the escaped heat will simply be returned back into the coffee by conduction, but using a fan (and also convection) will help remove that heat from the vicinity, so helping prevent this. Overall there is a continuous flow of heat away from the cup. The room heats up slightly as the hot molecules are added to it and the coffee cools down.
In the case of an air conditioner, the liquid that evaporates is kept in a closed system. The liquid is forced to evaporate (which cools it) and then the gas is condensed (which heats it up). The two processes are done in separate parts of the system, so that the cold part has air passed over it that cools the house or car and the hot part has air passed over it that takes the excess heat and blows it out into the environment.
Answered by rghome on November 6, 2021
Other answers here are interesting, but here is a simple version, without formulae.
Consider the hypothetical situation that the drink has already cooled to reach equilibrium, ie it has already cooled to room temperature of 25C. The fan then facilitates evaporation of one more water molecule, which will be one of the more energetic (hotter) molecules. So the drink now has a lower mean temperature, just below 25C. So that answers the question, but more interesting ...
The drink will continue losing heat in this way until the rate of heat loss by evaporation is equal to the rate of heating of the cup from the surrounding air, then there is a new equilibrium. So the better insulated the cup, the colder the drink will become before this equilibrium is reached.
Answered by ExperiMentor on November 6, 2021
I used my hand sanitizer(thanks to COVID) which is the alcohol of 70%v/v will surely an easy experiment to demonstrate it, and my result was yes the temperature of the liquid is below the room temperature, and I feel it depends upon volatility of the liquids which cause the process of evaporation , and cool down the liquid , in your example, the temperature change would not be significantly much as it in the alcohol one but yes it can be cool down.
Answered by Jack Rod on November 6, 2021
Yes, as other answers have stated, the temperature could drop below room temperature through evaporative cooling. In fact it could get as cold as the wet-bulb temperature of the air in the room. If you know the temperature and humidity of the air, you can figure out the wet-bulb temperature by using a psychrometric chart:
Find your room temperature on the green "Dry Bulb Temperature" scale and the room relative humidity on the red "Relative Humidity" scale. Locate the point where they meet, and read off that position on the light blue "Wet Bulb or Saturation Temperature" scale. For example, if the room temperature is 25°C and the relative humidity is 30% (which you indicated), the lowest temperature your drink could reach by evaporative cooling would be roughly 14°C. If the air was completely dry however (relative humidity 0%), it could reach about 8°C.
This does not necessarily mean that your drink will reach that temperature. It may require a large air flow, a large evaporation surface, and considerable time to actually reach the wet bulb temperature.
Answered by jkej on November 6, 2021
Typically a convective boundary condition is of the form $$ Q = h cdot A cdot (T(t) - T_text{env}) = h cdot A cdot Delta T(t) $$ (where h can be a function of fluid velocity if necessary) so it is not really possible that heat can be transferred past the environmental temperature(if T is bigger than Tenv we have cooling if the reverse we have heating). Reading the other answers here there is a endothermic reaction of evaporation here that is the cause of cooling below the environmental temperature. Raoults law states that at equilibrium $$ x_i = frac{y_i p_text{total}}{p_i^star}$$ so the relative humidity is basically a measure of how far from equilibrium we currently are. By blowing air past a volatile liquid we keep it further from equilibrium (faster reaction)and speed up the endothermic reaction causing more heat loss
Answered by ChemEng on November 6, 2021
I don't see how it can be cooled below room temperature.
But if the environment is dry and large enough, the fan can remove molecules from the liquid, increasing the water vapor content in the air. In that process, the air may cool, transfering energy to evaporate the water.
Eventually the room can be cooled. As a consequence the drink can reach temperatures below the previous room temperature. But the effect will probably be negligible. Normally it is necessary special nozzles to produce a fine water spray, increasing the kinetics of the process.
I have worked in a factory where fans with water sprays cooled the environment. It could be measured by a thermometer, and was not only a refreshing feeling due to the evaporation of water on the skin.
Answered by Claudio Saspinski on November 6, 2021
There are two types of liquid i.e. volatile & non-volatile liquids. Consider two cases for these liquids
Case 1: Let the liquid be volatile say water. The liquids are mostly volatile. The fan blows air over the liquid surface. This makes the liquid to evaporate & taken away in form of vapors by blowing air. In this process, the liquid molecules on free surface of liquid takes enthalpy of vaporization partly from neighing molecules and partly from blowing air to change in vapor. This results in heat extraction & cooling of volatile liquid and also possibly partial cooling of blowing air depending on temperature of liquid. The minimum temperature that a volatile liquid can achieve is the Thermodynamic Wet Bulb Temperature (TWBT) of ambient air. This is one of reasons why water (i.e. abundant volatile liquid with high enthalpy of vaporization) is used in water cooling systems.
The condition of a volatile liquid to cooled by air blowing over its surface is that the temperature of volatile liquid should be greater than dew point temperature (DBT) (i.e. temperature at which water vapor in air starts condensing) & less than wet bulb temperature (WBT) (i.e. temperature at which air is saturated with vapor) of blowing air.
Case2: Let liquid be non volatile (i.e. can't evaporate) say Glycerin. The air blown by fan extracts heat from liquid surface by (forced) convection process if the temperature of (ambient) blowing air is less than liquid temperature & it can cool non-volatile liquid (Glycerin) otherwise not.
Answered by Harish Chandra Rajpoot on November 6, 2021
Yes, it can become cooler than room temperature. The fan blowing on the liquid surface acts like the evaporation stage in a refrigerator. There's no recycling of the vapour by condensation as in a refrigerator, but that's clearly not important here!
It's no doubt possible even to freeze the liquid, but this is more easily demonstrated by blowing air at room temperature over a volatile liquid such as ether to freeze a small amount of water. [Safety warning: Don't try this except, possibly, outdoors and with extreme caution; ether is highly flammable and an anaesthetic.]
No need to worry, though, about the laws of thermodynamics: this is not a self-acting cyclic process and the second law is not violated!
Answered by Philip Wood on November 6, 2021
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