Personal Finance & Money Asked on October 3, 2021
As a young person starting work and higher education, there is a lot of advice to begin saving and investing (the most common thing I hear is to invest into a Roth IRA but I’m Australian). Often it may also be to buy a SP500 tracked index or something of the sort.
This makes a lot of sense. Time is on the side of young people, and it provides a great way to increase a person’s wealth. I think it’s a fantastic idea. But if it’s so great – why don’t countries do it? They have even more time (sometimes) than the individual and have lots more capital. Why doesn’t every government invest it’s money into diversified investments in the stock market or other things? It would "generate free money" for things like universal health care. I’ve heard of Sovereign Wealth Funds, but they seem to be very, very small amounts compared to total budgets of most countries.
I think I’m missing something here. Why don’t countries invest in shares/indices/gold/foreign property?
But if it's so great - why don't countries do it?
Oh sure they do. I think you'll find that many countries that have excess oil wealth have decided to invest. For example, see Government Pension Fund of Norway and other sovereign wealth funds.
Why doesn't every government invest it's money into diversified investments in the stock market or other things?
Not every country is as rich as Norway. They do invest but in such a case the investments are generally to strategically important local companies where government ownership is warranted. For example, bit over half of Fortum is owned by the Finnish government. Finland is a country that has no oil and thus no massive wealth. Thus, the government has wisely decided to direct the investments to strategically important companies instead of investing in an index fund, because then the ownership in companies belonging to the index would probably be below 0.01% -- not that much as for Norway.
Also, it is worth mentioning that Finnish government has large forest ownerships.
Why don't countries invest in shares/indices/gold/foreign property?
Investing in gold might not be such a good idea as an ounce of gold today is an ounce of gold in 100 years. However, a well-picked stock today is worth a lot in 100 years because companies, unlike gold, grow.
However, many central banks do actually have large deposits of gold. Historically it was used as a backing for the currency, but today we have fiat currency that is not backed by gold.
Correct answer by juhist on October 3, 2021
Governments invest in other things besides stocks and bonds.
Most people don't buy one of the FAANG stocks because of the amount to Government bonds they own. They buy stocks because the company will generate profits. Nobody wants the government to own a large amount of company stock.
Answered by mhoran_psprep on October 3, 2021
Most governments don't actually have any extra money sitting around. The U.S. for example raises a certain amount of money each year in taxes but actually spends an even greater amount, which it pays for by creating money out of thin air. It would be hard to justify printing money just to invest it because the government wouldn't get any benefit since they can just print more money later when they actually need to use it instead. Creating money to invest would simply benefit the wealthiest members of society since they are the ones who own the most stocks and would get the benefit of the stock prices inflating due to the government's investment.
Answered by Daniel on October 3, 2021
Nations are not companies. Nations do not exist to make money but to improve the life of their citizens. A good life has many aspects but the most important ones are health, social security, basic infrastructure, education, housing, protection against crime, protection against aggressive neighbouring nations. Improvements on those aspects often improve the economic situation of a country as well:
For most countries, fulfilling their obligations on those aspects is already using up all their budget they can get through reasonable taxation. As most countries already borrow a lot of money through government bonds, it simply does not make much sense to deviate money to invest into the stock market. There simply is none left after paying all the bills. The nations that have a sovereign wealth fund and are directly investing, are all in the special situation that they are oil rich and have realized that this oil money will not last forever and they need another source of revenue in the future.
Another factor is time and visibility. A new highway will create a visible sign of your investment and it can be used immediately after completion. It will give people an advantage right now because they can get easier from place A to B. A stock market investment on the other hand is just a number that fluctuates all the time and it will really reap the benefits only after a longer time.
It is also important to note that - even if we assume it would make sense for a country to invest in the stock market - it is very hard to do so. Most government are only elected for a limited time of typically 4 years. A long-term investment therefore needs to span multiple governments and each of them has to resist the temptation to take out money of their investment and spend it on something that increases the ruling party's popularity.
Answered by Manziel on October 3, 2021
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