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What is a company allowed to do with investors funds?

Personal Finance & Money Asked by Mark Evans on April 19, 2021

Imagine there are two companies. Company A invests £1m in Company B. Company B stock price goes up. Company B now has £1m and decides to Invest in company A.

Company A stock price goes up and with the newly invested £1m invests again in company B etc etc

What are the rules to stop this false increase in company stock price?

2 Answers

Your logic doesn't match exactly, because the stock price going up isn't going to happen (because, why should it?)

But let's simplify it a bit:

Imagine there are two companies. For the sake of simplicity, Company A has £1m, Company B has nothing (or nearly nothing, or maybe just £1).

Company A invests these £1m in Company B. For the sake if this, B creates new shares. As B's owners' part of the company is diluted, they have to agree to this, but let's assume they do.

Then B has £1m of cash and invests them in A. In order to make this happen, A creates new shares (the owners agreeing), and is now worth £2m.

At this point, the following happens:

A is worth £2m. It has £1m of cash and £1m of shares in B. A belongs to its original owners (50%) and to B (50%).

B is worth £1m. All this consists of £1m of shares in A (and £1 in cash, but let's ignore that). B belongs to A (£1m) and to its original owner (£1, but let's ignore that as well).

Now what would be the purpose of doing so?

Answered by glglgl on April 19, 2021

A modified form of the @glglgl example:

  1. Company B issues new shares (thus diluting existing ownership).
  2. Company A can buy them for £1m cash, thus injecting new money into Company B.
  3. Now Company B has a £1m asset of type "cash".
  4. For whatever foolish reason, Company B uses that £1m asset to buy £1m of share of Company A stock.
  5. Thus, Company B no longer has a £1m asset of type "cash", but now has a £1m asset of type "shares" in Company A.

As you can see, there's no magical money expansion. B has £1m more in assets than it did at the beginning of the exercise.

Answered by RonJohn on April 19, 2021

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