Personal Finance & Money Asked on August 20, 2021
I am a 25 y/o US citizen working in the US for a US company. Given these days’ hard times, my company has elected to suspend its 401k match. I make too much money to contribute to a Roth IRA. What is the most efficient thing to do with my money? Do I maintain my 401k contribution level, or cut it down and put the money elsewhere? My gut says to do this and put the extra money into an individual investment account, but my google searches yield mixed answers.
Based on your comment, I see no reason to stop all contributions to your 401k except for the following reasons:
If your 401k plan has good investment options, low fees, and you have no "hair on fire" debt, keep your 401k contributions the same. The 401k is still tax-advantaged, so putting the money in a brokerage account would essentially be the same thing except without the tax benefits.
Correct answer by Nosjack on August 20, 2021
It depends much upon your plans for the future and other financial information.
My advice would be to make sure you are out of consumer debt and have a healthy emergency fund in place. You could direct the money, that you had been contributing to your 401K, to those purposes. It seems that your company is undergoing hard times and you may find yourself out of work soon so playing a bit of defense is never a bad idea.
If those things are taken care of you can probably still do a Roth. Look up "back door Roth" for a way to get around the income limitations for Roth contributions. If you want to contribute more than 6K, or you don't want to do a back door, you could just open a taxable brokerage account.
While you will pay taxes on the income you put into a taxable account, and income earned in that brokerage account you can limit this by using mutual funds that spin off little or no cash, or using a buy and hold strategy for single stocks. A boring old S&P 500 fund spins off very little cash so they tend to be very tax efficient while their appreciation can be much larger. Taxes will be due when you sell, but that could be years down the road.
There is always the option to continue to contribute to the 401K. Many people contribute well above the percentage to get a match and it is so painless and simple to use a 401K, which is essentially the same thing. There is something to be said about the simplicity of just continuing to use your 401K if you are happy with the fund choices and fees.
Answered by Pete B. on August 20, 2021
If you have a mortgage or other debts, the best use of your money is to pay them off. Don't forget that a mortgage is a debt. Credit cards and other loans first, of course, because they have the highest interest.
But after that, the interest you pay on a mortgage is guaranteed to be more than you could earn from any bank account. Remember that for the bank to break even, the interest on mortgages and other loans has to pay for the interest on savings plus the bank's own administration overheads, so the interest paid on savings (even 401K) inevitably has to be lower than the interest charged on all loans.
The reason "match" funding from a company makes that scheme advantageous is that the margin between interest paid and interest charged is less than 100%. The extra funding from the company more than covers that margin, making it a good use of your money. Take away that "match" funding, and even with tax relief you're losing ground overall.
Of course this depends on the terms of your mortgage. Some may limit the amount you can repay at any one time or in any one year, so you would need to check the details. It also assumes you do have a mortgage - if you don't then it naturally doesn't apply to you.
Answered by Graham on August 20, 2021
Since you’re keen on investing in a Roth, we certainly don’t need to convince you of the value of retirement savings. Any chance you could pass the word on to me at age 25? (which unfortunately was a while ago :)
I hope it’s also unnecessary to talk about the wisdom of an emergency fund; obviously that is the #1 priority. You can’t count on “borrowing” from a 401K because that only works while you remain in that employment. Also, there’s something to be said for reducing debt, but if you’re already happy with your 401K investment plan, I don’t have a reason to doubt you.
I definitely agree a Roth is more favorable than a plain 401K for a number of non-fiduciary reasons (and some fiduciary ones but they’re subtle and complicated). There are a couple ways to get there.
First, talk to your 401K provider about a Roth 401K. Yeah, that’s a thing; but it’s not a thing for everyone in every plan.
Second, as Pete discusses, you can use the “Roth Backdoor” - contribute to a Traditional IRA but don’t take the tax deduction; this is called a Non-Deductible IRA. Then you do a “Convert to Roth”; and the amount of the contribution isn’t taxed because it was already taxed.
There used to be a question of the legality of the Roth Backdoor. Some argued it was a glitch. But documents have recently surfaced that reveal Congress considers it intentional and IRS considers it business as usual.
Answered by Harper - Reinstate Monica on August 20, 2021
Real world performance on investments is largely a matter of avoiding biases, being ok with meeting rather than beating the benchmarks, and resisting the urge to act in response to what's happening at the moment. Choose how you save based on what helps you consistently set money aside on a sustainable basis, resist playing with it, and keeps ongoing costs (fees & service charges) low.
Answered by Jason Lampert on August 20, 2021
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