Personal Finance & Money Asked on June 10, 2021
I’ve recently (3 months ago as of writing this) got into proper double entry bookkeeping for my personal finances. I’ve been using GnuCash, though this pertains more to double entry practices than software specific.
My fiancé and I have just closed on a house. We did not pay in equally, and we want me to "pay back" the difference over time. This will be done through purchases for the home, utilities, whatever. We already have a similar setup where we balance out things like our groceries. We track our own food expenses, but we buy them on one transaction on the trip, balancing over time by taking turns paying.
The problem for me is that the whiteboard account is only a half solution. I track my actual expenses in GnuCash, but not theirs. So when I owe say $10, and I pay for $10 of items for them along with $30 for myself, the entry looks like this:
Source | Target | Debit | Credit |
---|---|---|---|
-split- | Checking | — | $40 |
-split- | Groceries | $30 | — |
-split- | Whiteboard | $10 | — |
This works as it tracks my total spend, the expense for my food, and reduces my owed amount on the board. So then I look at how my credit card works, which is Card credits to Groceries, and later Checking credits Card. But with that account the debt is created as needed and temporarily. With the house repayment I have the debt all up front.
So the question is, how can I track the flow of money from Checking, have it pay down the existing House Repayment debt, and also have the dollar amount tracked in House Expenses? Essentially the goal is that at a certain point in GnuCash my transaction report totals will balance and I will have put in as much money as my partner, and we can then move to a new balancing system.
You can't, on purpose. That's the point of double-entry. You can use a Dollar to pay back a loan or to buy a steak, but you can't do both. You could try to debit from your groceries account to credit the loan, but then you'd end up with a lower number in groceries than what you actually spent at the store.
If instead you use a simple loan payback using Dollars, and then share the expenses, it would work as you want.
Answered by Michael on June 10, 2021
I'm in a similar situation-- a house purchase with unequal initial investments in the down payment, with the intention to resolve the inequality over time. There are two items that are think are relevant to your situation which may make things clearer. I am not an expert on double-entry bookkeeping, so I apologize in advance if this advice isn't focused properly on what you're after:
It's very difficult to say what spending would have occurred with or without this debt, and you might not be on the same page with what spending should count (you may have a system for dealing with this already). If, for example, your fiancé is not all that interested in repainting, but you are, you buying paint may not be the offset you're hoping for. Why should you paying 100% of the cost for paint that your fiancé doesn't want and wouldn't buy satisfy a cash debt you owe to your fiancé?
This is kind of a silly, small example, but it (hopefully) demonstrates some of the issues with taking a highly structured debt (unequal equity in a house) and repaying it in a very unstructured way. It's made a bit worse with undefined fractions of ordinary, unavoidable purchases (like groceries)-- is 100% of the cost of grocery trip A a always meaningful balance for 0% of the cost of grocery trip B? Maybe, but not always. Paying down your debt to your fiancé is not a household expense. It is a personal expense of yours.
As I understand the accounts book you've laid out, you are wanting individual entries to cover multiple things (ordinary expenses as well as your extra household contributions against the debt) and be recorded in multiple places (the purchase itself and also the "extra" money directed against the debt).
But if you have additional categories or subcategories for spending you can track those things while also enjoying the clarity of the double-entry approach. If your heating bill is $200, and you would ordinarily split the cost evenly, it could be represented as Heat (Total) = $200 and recorded as Heat (Logarr's Portion) = $100, and Heat (Logarr's Extra Payment Against Loan) = $100.
The two subcategories add up to the total category amount but explicitly break out the portion of your payments which cover your ordinary portion (what you would be paying if there were no debt to service) and your extra portion meant to offset the debt. There is no ambiguity about what money was directed to which category or purpose.
I, personally, like the idea of fixed payments against what you currently owe to your fiancé with regard to the house because that is clearer. Especially if you spend the money in a way that makes your equity in the house obviously more equal over time (so, if you each pay 50% of the mortgage, you making extra payments on top of that against the principal directly adds to your share of the house's equity in a way that the cost of a dinner out would not). But that sort of approach may or may not suit you for any number of reasons.
Answered by Upper_Case on June 10, 2021
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