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How should i invest $70k - buy a house or other?

Personal Finance & Money Asked on December 10, 2020

I have been saving for a home but TBC on if I will buy one so wanted to ask for advice on what other ideas there may be.
I have $20k in cash savings and $50k in stocks.
I have 401k currently at $55k
I earn $195k a year.
I have no debts.

I haven’t yet opened a Roth account but would be good to get thoughts on that.

3 Answers

First, if you are filing single and are making $195k in gross income that you can't contribute to a Roth IRA unless you use back door Roth IRA. If your filing jointly (married), anything above 196k together would make you not able to contribute to Roth IRA.

20k in cash savings is a lot so unless you are looking to buy a house then I would put it in stocks. Depending on how passive you want your investment, your location... You can put the 20k towards a downpayment for a house.

Assuming you want the house to be passive, I would do some research on a house that is undervalued in an area you believe will go up (look for minor cosmetic issue, no ain't issues like foundation or something like that). A lot of people are looking for turn key houses but if you just put in some money into an undervalued house it can boost it up. I would do some research before going to this avenue.

Regarding home loans for investment, it is 20% of property value and for living there downpayment can be as low as 3.5% (0% downpayment with VA loan). I would not buy the house in cash, the rent can cover the mortgage.

If you really want the property to be passive you can hire a property manager but they take 6-10% of the rent so I wouldn't recommend it unless you really don't want to deal with it. Also before putting a tenant into a property make sure you screen the tenants well so you don't end up with a bad tenant.

Owning properties have a lot of pros, but regarding your 55k in your 401k, I would like to know your initial investment. Because if you are currently losing money in the 401k, so down from original investment. You might want to consider moving the investments in a back-door Roth IRA if you know the investments will go back up. If you are in profit you probably shouldn't do this. You can talk with your CPA about this and they can give you some more insight on the best way to do this.

I would also recommend a good CPA because if you are an independent making that much, you are probably paying a lot of tax and a CPA can help you lower that amount of tax with putting investments with the 20k in savings.

Regarding the 50k in stocks if you are at a profit and you want to invest in a property at a higher value so as to make it a 70k down payment that is fine. But if you are down with stocks I would wait until they go up.

This is just some insight, I would recommend taking with a good CPA. And also if you need more guidance you can hire a financial advisor. Or look on YouTube and google searches for research on these topics.

Answered by Monk on December 10, 2020

First things first:

  1. Pay of your debt: check
  2. Makes sure you have 3-6 months living expenses as an high liquidity emergency cushion: don't know, depends what your living expenses are. Given your 195k income, $70k may just be your emergency cushion.
  3. Fund anything tax protected to the max: max out your 401k, if possible get a high deductible health insurance account and max out your HSA contribution. If you have kids, consider a 529 plan

Once these are taken care off, we can look at more options. That depends a lot on what your financial goals and the timeline for these goals are. General advice is

  1. Diversify, a little of everything is better than a lot of one thing
  2. Keep your fees low. ETFs are a typically a good choice.
  3. Don't try to "time" the market, pick a diversified strategy and (mostly) stick with it
  4. Buying a house should first and foremost be a lifestyle decision not a financially motivated one. But in general real estate is a good long term investment and more inflation proof than many others
  5. We live in weird times and the future is unpredictable. At the moment it would be safer to stay with short term investments with lower volatility (even if the returns are abysmal)

Answered by Hilmar on December 10, 2020

This is always a controversial question on this site.

Sophisticated investors will explain that (basically) you can make more money on other investments - and that's correct.

BUT.

100.000% of people who tell you that ... already own a house (or many).

I believe that you should >>> first <<< buy a house.

(By "buy", I mean including merely having a mortgage on a house.)

The specific actual reasons are straightforward:

  1. In almost all jurisdictions there are massive, totally overwhelming, tax advantages to an investment in a house you live in.

  2. There are tremendous structural, societal, business and legal advantages to simply owning a house. (Vastly improved access to credit, etc etc.)

  3. In the current socio-historic milieu, the one and only way "ordinary civilians" can get massive investment leverage in any category, is ownership of the house they live in.

  4. It's absolutely true that owning a house† has maintenance expenses. But the fact is in the overwhelming majority of cases it's just cheaper than renting. (I just mean on a month to month basis - obviously if the market goes up you're ahead by zillions ovcer long periods of time - due to point 3.)

You will, in fact, be keeping your house (or swapping to another: same) until you die. That's a fact. When folks explain that your house is "only a good investment long term" it's really missing the central point that it's the very definition of long term. Nothing is longer.

Because of the 4 points above, each of which on its own is a knockout, my belief on this common question is indeed first buy a house. Once that is established then consider other investment ideas.

Eg: one of my AC in a house just blew up - 5 grand. Marvelous. :/

Answered by Fattie on December 10, 2020

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