Personal Finance & Money Asked on June 14, 2021
I made a few investments, and surprise, surprise, a few of them shot up in value. Now I’m faced with the dilemma of the greedy: do I sell now and capitalize on existing profits, or do I wait, risking my existing gains in the hopes of gaining more?
The optimal answer, intuitively at least, is somewhere in the middle. Sell some portion of your newly appreciated investment, capitalizing a little, but leaving some in the pot to hopefully grow. This sounds an awful lot like something there’d be a handy dandy formula for, maybe plug in a few values and you get a mathematically or game-theoretic optimal proportion of the position to sell off.
Does such a formula exist? Perhaps a few that fill this function?
There is a simple answer: Look at your stocks and decide whether you would buy them now if you did not own them yet.
If your answer is "why should I pay this crazy price?", it is probably time to sell. If it still looks like a good investment, keep it.
Answered by Manziel on June 14, 2021
I don't think the Kelly criterion is something most investors should consider for portfolio allocation. The counterpart is the efficient market hypothesis. I don't know how efficient markets actually are, but they are probably efficient enough that most investors can't apply the Kelly criterion in a meaningful way!
Instead, I would take a look at guidelines for portfolio rebalancing. Rebalancing less frequently lets your winners keep winning for awhile. You should find good advice here and via Google searches about how often you should rebalance.
In addition to rebalancing, you could also decide to change your target portfolio allocation, and this is akin to Manziel's answer.
Answered by gaefan on June 14, 2021
If you divide the market into asset classes and study the long-term returns and covariances of those classes, then a Kelly-like formula will tell you the optimal fractions of your portfolio that belong in each of those classes.
For example, you could decide that you want to invest in a mix of S&P500 stocks and intermediate term government bonds. (Hopefully through low cost ETFs.) Your Kelly analysis will tell you something like: "The optimal investment is 70% stocks and 30% bonds."
Great, now you have a strategy. You might also notice that the optimal peak is broad. It doesn't matter significantly if your ratios slip out of tune by 5% either way.
So now invest your capital accordingly, and revisit it every six months, or even annually, and "retune" your portfolio. Sell and buy enough of each class to move back to your optimal split.
You will be selling off a part of the winners when necessary, just as you felt you should. You will always be nearly optimally invested.
Answered by ChuckWh on June 14, 2021
To expand on @Menziel's answer, you have to consider opportunity cost, taxes, and your personal wants and needs.
Answered by csiz on June 14, 2021
To reiterate and expand on gaefan's answer. You set a target portfolio allocation. Periodically you examine the values of the allocations. Cull the high values (take profit!) and distribute the gains to lowest value allocations. This allows you to sell when high and buy low, without trying to time the market. You simply, on a pre-planned take take profits and buy-in to undervalued stocks.
For example you might invest in 3 stocks. And you allocate them evenly 33% 33% 33%. When you compare their values 3 months later you see that they are now 50% 30% 20%. You would then sell off enough of the 1st stock to reduce its total value to 33% of your total investment and then use the cash proceeds to buy into the 2nd and 3rd stocks to get them up to 33% of your total investment.
Answered by Arluin on June 14, 2021
The Kelly Criterion implies you have some sort of estimate on these probabilities when in reality nobody knows this. There would be a ton of variables involved in estimating the probabilities of equities being at certain values and at the end of the day they would never be definitive numbers.
You should ideally be searching for some sort of probability agnostic allocation formula which I'm not sure even exists (or at least to the extent that it can be mathematically proven as being the best possible action like Kelly's derivation makes clear). The efficacy frontier is probably your best bet as someone mentioned.
If you're using options at all and want to maintain certain a predetermined risk profile, you can look into what's called "beta weighting".
Answered by Prospero on June 14, 2021
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