Personal Finance & Money Asked by mathstuf on November 18, 2020
I’m entering journal entries for hledger for a 401k account and have questions about how it should work when an account goes through an exchange (I’m not sure what it is exactly; I guess the finance firm is doing internal shuffling of accounts).
Bucket2 Exchanges $10000.00 995.000
Bucket1 Realized G/L $100.00 0.000
Bucket1 Exchanges -$10000.00 -1000.000
Each line has the bucket (account) associated with the transaction, the type of transaction, the USD amount it is worth, and the number of shares associated with it. I see shares being cashed out from Bucket1 to buy shares of Bucket2 (which have a slightly different cost). There is also the “Realized G/L” transaction which I assume is gains and losses from the transaction. There are no shares associated with it.
All of these occurred on the same day, so I’d like to track it as 2 transactions: one for the exchange and another for the Realized G/L transaction.
Here’s what I have right now:
2019-13-31 * 401k exchange
acct:401k 995.000 "Bucket2" @@ $10000.00
acct:401k -1000.000 "Bucket1" @@ $10000.00
2019-13-31 * Realized G/L
acct:401k $100.00
acct:unknown ; What should this be?
; Assert that the old account is empty.
2019-13-31 * Post-exchange assertion
acct:401k = .00 "Bucket1"
However, I have a few questions:
The assertion fails because the shares taken out of Bucket1 don’t match those that I have tracked going into the bucket. I don’t see any transactions I’m missing in the transaction history; where could they have come from? The price per share in the Exchange does not match the number of missing shares based on the gains and losses amount, so this is not where the missing data comes from.
Is the G/L transaction merely informational? Either way, how should I track it?
So this turned out to be an off-by-one error on my part. I finally went through the history transaction history one by one and found out that later on the day I had previously synced, an entry was added. So when I added entries myself I limited the date range to the day after I had last synced until that day. I was therefore just missing a transaction since it fell in between that date gap.
(I think an answer makes sense so I can mark this as closed. Feel free (or I can) move this bit to the question and close it that way if preferred.)
Correct answer by mathstuf on November 18, 2020
Your assertion entry fails to balance because it has just one regular posting. An unbalanced posting would work (parenthesise the account name).
I'm not sure exactly what's going on in your example, but here's an attempt at modeling a similar, complete scenario, with maximum correctness a la #1177.
2019-07-01 opening balances, add $10000 cash
assets:cash $10000 = $10000
equity:opening/closing balances
2019-07-01 purchase 1000 shares of BKT1 for $9900
assets:bucket1 1000 "BKT1" = 1000 "BKT1" ; quotes because of the digit
assets:cash -$9900 = $100
; all shares cashed out from bucket1 to buy shares in bucket2:
2019-12-31 sell all BKT1 for $10000, and realize capital gains
assets:bucket1 -1000 "BKT1" = 0 "BKT1"
equity:exchange 1000 "BKT1"
equity:exchange -$10000
assets:cash $10000 = $10100
revenues:tax-deferred:gains $-100 ; gain for lot: 1000 BKT1 acquired 2019-07-01
assets:cash $100 = $10200
2019-12-31 buy BKT2 with the proceeds
assets:bucket2 995 "BKT2" = 995 "BKT2"
equity:exchange -995 "BKT2"
equity:exchange $10000
assets:cash -$10000 = $200
I'm not sure I have it right though. It gives these reports:
cash transactions:
$ hledger reg -w 90,30 cash
2019-07-01 opening balances, add $10000.. assets:cash $10000 $10000
2019-07-01 purchase 1000 shares of BKT1.. assets:cash $-9900 $100
2019-12-31 sell all BKT1 for $10000, an.. assets:cash $10000 $10100
assets:cash $100 $10200
2019-12-31 buy BKT2 with the proceeds assets:cash $-10000 $200
bucket1 transactions:
$ hledger reg -w 90,30 bucket1
2019-07-01 purchase 1000 shares of BKT1.. ..1 1000 "BKT1" 1000 "BKT1"
2019-12-31 sell all BKT1 for $10000, an.. ..1 -1000 "BKT1" 0
bucket2 transactions:
$ hledger reg -w 90,30 bucket2
2019-12-31 buy BKT2 with the proceeds assets:bucket2 995 "BKT2" 995 "BKT2"
all ending balances:
$ hledger bal --flat -E
0 assets:bucket1
995 "BKT2" assets:bucket2
$200 assets:cash
1000 "BKT1"
-995 "BKT2" equity:exchange
$-10000 equity:opening balances
$-100 revenues:tax-deferred:gains
--------------------
$-9900
1000 "BKT1"
balance sheet:
$ hledger bs --flat -E
Balance Sheet 2019-12-31
|| 2019-12-31
================++==================
Assets ||
----------------++------------------
assets:bucket1 || 0
assets:bucket2 || 995 "BKT2"
assets:cash || $200
----------------++------------------
|| $200, 995 "BKT2"
================++==================
Liabilities ||
----------------++------------------
----------------++------------------
||
================++==================
Net: || $200, 995 "BKT2"
balance sheet including (some) equity:
$ hledger bse --flat -E not:'opening balances'
Balance Sheet With Equity 2019-12-31
|| 2019-12-31
=================++==========================
Assets ||
-----------------++--------------------------
assets:bucket1 || 0
assets:bucket2 || 995 "BKT2"
assets:cash || $200
-----------------++--------------------------
|| $200, 995 "BKT2"
=================++==========================
Liabilities ||
-----------------++--------------------------
-----------------++--------------------------
||
=================++==========================
Equity ||
-----------------++--------------------------
equity:exchange || -1000 "BKT1", 995 "BKT2"
-----------------++--------------------------
|| -1000 "BKT1", 995 "BKT2"
=================++==========================
Net: || $200, 1000 "BKT1"
income statement:
$ hledger is --flat
Income Statement 2019-07-01-2019-12-31
|| 2019-07-01-2019-12-31
=============================++=======================
Revenues ||
-----------------------------++-----------------------
revenues:tax-deferred:gains || $100
-----------------------------++-----------------------
|| $100
=============================++=======================
Expenses ||
-----------------------------++-----------------------
-----------------------------++-----------------------
||
=============================++=======================
Net: || $100
Answered by Simon Michael on November 18, 2020
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