Personal Finance & Money Asked on January 4, 2021
I a US citizen living in the US looking to rent my Philadelphia condo unit. I put the listing on Zillow and had undercut neighboring rental listing to ensure I got tenant applicants, as I was nervous (as a first time landlord) that I would not be able to find any. To my pleasant surprise, I have received over 20 applications in 3 days. I have not yet committed to any one tenant, though multiple have already toured the property and expressed desire to live in it. This makes me feel as though I can raise the rent and still have interested tenants. The rent increase I am looking to make is somewhat substantial (~10%) but not ridiculous. My question is; can I do this? People who have already toured the place and applied are expecting a certain rent. People who are scheduled to visit also are expecting a certain rent. Is there a best way to do this to avoid people being angry? While ‘more money’ is obviously a good thing for me, it is not pure "there’s a lot of demand, so let’s be greedy and extract more money’; my initial undercut meant I was renting at a loss compared to the all-in mortgage. I would like to raise it to cover. If so, do I proactively reach out to those interested? Or simply provide them an explanation when they notice and ask?
Edit: This question has become somewhat moot as a prospective tenant has simply offered to pay more per month to gain priority selection after asking and being informed of the amount of other applicants applying. Surely, me simply accepting a higher “bid” has no ethical issues?
If anyone asks, apologize and say that you severely mis-priced it, and you can't afford to rent it out for the original price. Most of them will say "I'm not surprised". Then say "I'm taking it off the market so I don't bait-and-switch people".
Don't tell them this, but part of the problem is with an underpriced unit, you may be attracting "the wrong crowd". Attracting the chintzy or worse, those who hope to take advantage of a novice landlord. Some of them are much better at this game than you are.
This won't be a bait-and-switch because most people who are shopping for a place around this time need to move around this time. All the people you talked to will have found other situations, because selecting your place is not important to them; selecting a place now is.
Next month you'll get a whole new batch, and nobody will feel like you bait and switched them.
Landlording is harder than it sounds. There's a 2-volume set of just landlord law by Nolo Press. Honestly I got a little nervous when I heard you hadn't asked anyone for a credit check.
You may want to get a property manager or Realtor to help you manage the property. Someone who screens thousands of tenants. At least until you get a couple years of experience.
Correct answer by Harper - Reinstate Monica on January 4, 2021
Not a lawyer but this seems like a very bad plan.
What you're hoping to do here looks very much like a classic bait-and-switch scam. Advertising a low price to attract customers and then declining to offer the goods at that price is generally not allowed and could cause you significant liability. You'd need to look at Philadelphia's landlord-tenant laws and consumer protection laws to determine what liability you'd face and/or whether you fall under one of the law's exceptions. But it looks to this non-lawyer like you'd be pretty squarely covered.
Answered by Justin Cave on January 4, 2021
Small time landlord here.
I would say don't count your chickens before they hatch. "expressing an interest" is not the same thing as putting down a security deposit and signing a lease. I've had many people "express interest" who then ghost me. Finding an apartment is a lot like dating. These potential tenants might also have expressed interest in two or three other places. until you have a check in your hand you really don't know. I'd suggest stick with your original price and see what happens. If you do get it signed quickly, you can raise the rent the next time around.
Answered by Daniel K on January 4, 2021
If you haven't collected money from applicants or made any agreements with them, then they aren't harmed by you changing rent, in a legally actionable way at least. As comments point out, some people might view their wasted time as an incredible offense and seek to harm you. If you have collected application fees then you either shouldn't raise the rent or you should refund all application fees if the applicants are not interested at the higher price. Legally I don't see a problem assuming no harm is done to the applicants, but go ask a lawyer in your region to confirm.
Whether or not you should depends primarily on how much below market you actually went. If you listed 20% below market value, then people wouldn't be shocked if you indicated it was a listing mistake. If it's 5% under market value, you come across as someone who is trying to squeeze as much out as you can. Some grey between those ranges, but don't expect current applicants to stick around at a higher rate.
I consistently rent on the low-end of market value because I want a wide tenant-pool to choose from. High quality tenants that feel they are getting a good value are worth a lot more than getting the highest possible rent. You want a fair rent that you're comfortable not raising too significantly if your tenants are interested in renewing. That's my model at least, I'm happy to sacrifice some rent to keep turnover low and maintain high quality tenants.
Answered by Hart CO on January 4, 2021
Yes you can. Just tell them that there was a lot of interest and someone offered 9 % more than the advertised price and "if you offer +10 % you are first in the line".
Answered by d-b on January 4, 2021
It is common understanding between civilized, honorable people that a promise is a promise. When you accept an application you make a promise. Namely, that unless the prospective tenant happens to meet certain defined disqualifying criteria, they will be given the right to sign on the exact terms discussed.
The person who submitted an application for a lower rent may not want to apply at the higher rent, so if you raise your asking rent without giving them a chance to sign at the original amount, you are wasting the time which they spent on your application. You have also made them submit confidential personal information on a false premise (that they would thereby gain the opportunity to sign a lease at the lower price). You could get in trouble here if the authorities decide for instance that you have no intention of renting at all, and are merely running a scam to collect personal information.
Typically an application also includes an application fee. This is another problem, as if the application is going to be thrown out that money is essentially being cheated out of the applicant. A particularly angry applicant (which they have every right to be given that this sort of sell-side price hiking is considered extremely rude and improper) may decide to sue you in small claims court for the fee. That will open the door to being sued for legal damages, time lost, and the local government further deciding to review your practices. Keep in mind that politically speaking, punishing shady landlord practices will likely be a popular move these days.
I would say that if you really want to raise your rent, you should at least refund the application fee to the applicants and apologize. You should also destroy the information they submitted and make this clear. There's nothing you can do about the wasted time, but hopefully none of the applicant will bother trying to get at you for just that. Also, carefully review the language in your application and your local laws, because it is conceivable that there may be local laws that require you to honor all applications received.
Answered by Money Ann on January 4, 2021
I'd say 20 interested parties is good, that allows you to look at non-monetary factors as well -- do they leave an impression on you as if they will take good care of things, do they seem like people who'd get along with the neighbours, so if someone goes on holiday, they will watch each others' houses to prevent burglaries.
You are still competing with other landlords for good tenants. A handyman might not want to pay as much as a hipster running a venture capital funded startup, but they will also complain a lot less about minor issues that are technically your responsibility but can be fixed in five minutes.
Answered by Simon Richter on January 4, 2021
I would very strongly recommend against doing so, especially during this pandemic, when evicting people for non-payment will be impossible for a long time. Rather, if you have a lot of prospective tenants to pick from, research them (Facebook, LinkedIn, etc) ask them for a credit report(or at least a Credit Karma screenshot) and choose the one that seems like a sure bet for not defaulting, i.e. they still have something to lose, like very good credit, or they have a job that is extremely unlikely to be cut, or they at least seem like a responsible, organized person. It's much better to have 10% less with a high level of confidence, because a good tenant is getting a great deal, than risk 100% less + risk of damage to the apartment. If no-one fits the bill, accept the temporary loss and keep looking, with maybe another 5% cut to stimulate interest.
Answered by Eugene on January 4, 2021
One option is to go ahead and increase the advertised rate on Zillow for any new contacts, but also send everyone who has already contacted you a message telling them that you will still honor the previously advertised price for them. Even so, many of those people could view this as a type of high-pressure sales tactic and run from that.
Answered by Justin on January 4, 2021
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