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Issue with notes going over the time signature

Music: Practice & Theory Asked on October 25, 2021

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I’m transferring this score to Finale, am almost at the end of it, and I’m really confused as to how this works. There are 16th notes between the 8th notes, probably done with another layer, but then in the treble clef, it looks like there are notes that go after the bass part, but if that were the case (it’s in 4/4 time btw), then it would take up more than the measure. Am I missing something here? Is this a type of formatting I’m not aware of?

6 Answers

I think the program used to typeset the original score had issues with the alignment of distinct (sticks up vs sticks down) voices. I've modified the supplied snap to show how it should have looked:

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Answered by Brian THOMAS on October 25, 2021

There might an error and the 16th notes are 32nd notes.
Or the 16ths might be tuplets.
I'd notate it like this in the former case:
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... and like this in the latter case:

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Answered by user70304 on October 25, 2021

Considering your other question (24 16th notes in a 4/4 measure; Tuplets?), I suspect that the alignment here is correct, and that these aren't true 16th notes but rather triplets. That would mean that the first part of each triplet should be a sixteenth rest, which would of course be aligned with the bass eighth notes, and that those rests are not shown for some reason.

Answered by phoog on October 25, 2021

So if this is from a pdf the original arranger has notated both hands in the bass clef (beat 1,2) and then both hands in the treble clef (3,4). This print was probably by "hidden" rests.

If you scan this sheet it will cause problems but if you edit this bar by hand you can solve them.

Answered by Albrecht Hügli on October 25, 2021

Both systems have an eighth rest on the first beat. The notes are on different layers. The most simple solution is: just give in the notes a new, 4 voices in 4 different layers.

alternately try:

1.

-> explode music (utilities) and see what happens:

-> choose different colours (view and select layer colours)

if necessarily edit the notation

-> implode

or try

  1. menu Edit

-> edit measure attributes

-> Position notes (using beat-chart spacing -> according to time signature)

Answered by Albrecht Hügli on October 25, 2021

Because of the 8th note rests in both the treble and bass clefs on the downbeat the first 16th and 8th should line up. After that every other 16th should line up with an 8th note. You can also keep each hand in their respective staff by changing clef or using 8ba or 8va if you choose.

The blue lines indicate notes that happen simultaneously:

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Answered by John Belzaguy on October 25, 2021

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