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Rough idle when AC is on

Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair Asked on March 9, 2021

My Toyota Vitz 2007 idles roughly when AC is on. If AC is turned off, the idle becomes much smoother.

This vibration is more visible if I suddenly stop in traffic. As soon as I stop, several rough vibrations occur and then it becomes smoother.

I got the vehicle serviced: cleaned the fuel filter, replaced Air and AC filters, replaced engine oil. But the problem hasn’t got resolved.

What could be the reason for ths?

4 Answers

The symptoms are consistent with deposits in the throttle body. There are other potential causes. These deposits accrue in the intake manifold over time. They build faster with short trips and low quality fuels. Inspection and cleaning of the throttle body would be first thing to look at for this symptom. This engine is equipped with a computer controlled throttle system. It is designed to adjust its opening to keep the idle speed close to 700 rpm regardless of engine load. If to much dirt collects around the throttle blade the system can get beyond the limits of the systems ability to adjust idle speed with the extra load of the air conditioning.

To clean the throttle use a soft cleaning cloth soaked in a solvent. Open the throttle blade carefully. Clean the throttle blade and the surrounding bore. Do not scrub, let the solvent do the work, no scratches are allowed on the polished bore.

After cleaning start the engine and let it idle for at least 20 minutes while the system learns it's new throttle position. This vehicle should relearn on its own. It may need to be revved up and put in gear several times during the learing time. Note that other designs require tools and procedures to perform the throttle system relearn.

Cautions;

  • These geared blades are very strong and can damage body parts if they activate during cleaning, Make sure the vehicle key is away from the vehicle. Open them slowly and carefully. We use shotgun bore cleaning swabs so we do not have to insert fingers into the blade area
  • Do not spray solvents into the bore and intake, just soak the cloth.
  • Do not use metal tools for cleaning, it is easy to cause damage and these units are expensive.

If indicated, have cleaning done by an experienced technician if at all unsure since it is possible to get injured or damage a very expensive part.

Correct answer by Fred Wilson on March 9, 2021

Had the same issue on my Toyota Matrix turned out I had several vacuum leaks replaced the pcv valve and hose; and both the intake manifold gasket, as well cleaned the throttle body and put a new gasket and solved the issue. Hope this helps

Answered by Mark celis on March 9, 2021

I have an 03 camry with a fly by wire throttle body. The TPS and throttle motor needs replacing (all one unit). I just replaced most of the AC system and had it charged yesterday. There was already a problem with low and rough idle. I knew I would have a problem with the idle after I got the AC working. At rest the idle is at 14 to 16 % (engine not running.) Should be at zero, 1 or 2 and if over 5% has to be replaced. The computer is constantly trying to compensate. I've read lots of post and new throttle body's fixed it. However if you have an independent TPS you may be able to adjust it, or replace it. If you have performance mods you'll figure it out.

Answered by Michael Stoltz on March 9, 2021

My answer is replacing your idle air control valve and oxygen sensor. Of course get the throttle body clean by with a throttle body cleaner or carburetor cleaner. Also check air filter makesure it's clean or new. But the really answer is the iac valve and oxygen sensor.

Answered by Cons on March 9, 2021

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