Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair Asked on September 29, 2021
Recently my 2007 Mazda6 (2.3L I4) has been taking longer and longer to start in temperatures colder than about 5 F (-15 C). The car usually sits overnight for about 12 hours after I get home from work; it typically starts better when I’m leaving work in the afternoon. Today I had the key turned for about 4 seconds, then gave it a short rest and after another 2 seconds of starting it fired up. Normally it kicks up almost instantly.
The starter turns over quickly but the engine doesn’t catch, so I don’t think it’s a battery or starter issue. When it finally does catch, the engine lugs at very low RPM for several seconds and sometimes dies on me at this point. It starts up more easily after this though. Often I’ll give it a little gas right as it starts, then it lugs for a shorter period of time before spiking up to about 2.5k.
I have also had it start with no trouble but then lug at very low RPM until I rev it a bit. After this, it drives just fine and I have no reduced power while driving normally.
Other info:
Seems like a fuel pressure problem. Issues with coil packs doesn’t seem likely. Any other thoughts? What tests should I do to figure out what to do next? (I can’t test fuel pressure myself, would have to take it somewhere)
This morning it was right around freezing (slightly below freezing overnight); much warmer than it has been recently.
I still had a little trouble starting this morning, about 6 seconds of cranking then gave it a couple seconds rest and it started almost immediately on the second try.
I drove about 10 minutes to an appointment. The engine reached normal operating temp but I didn’t go any faster than about 40 mph.
After about 45 minutes I came back out to my car and it wouldn’t start at all – or rather, it would crank and quickly start to turn over but then immediately die. After 4 or 5 tries of this I started to worry I’d need a tow, but with a combination of holding the key on start and feathering the gas pedal, it finally choked and sputtered and then revved up to idle like nothing had happened. It ran fine all the way to work.
I’m becoming less convinced this is directly related to outside temperature. What should I test next?
It turns out that it was a fuel pressure problem, as originally suspected. See my answer posted below.
These are symptoms of a failing fuel pump.
After Neil's answer, I filled with premium and the problem seemed to go away for a few days. Soon after it was back with a vengeance and about a week after asking this question, the vehicle wouldn't start at all. It would crank but no amount of fiddling would get it to start.
The telltale sign for me was that I could no longer hear the fuel pump hum for a couple seconds after turning the key.
I had the vehicle towed to my house. I picked up a new fuel pump from the local O'Reilly to the tune of around $250 and replaced the old one. It started instantly and I have had zero problems in the two months since.
Moral of the story: Just because you can hear the fuel pump running when you turn the ignition, doesn't mean that the fuel pump is working well.
Correct answer by Dan A. on September 29, 2021
I am assuming no check engine light? Strange to have this mix of issues and not throwing diag codes - you'd get a misfire code for instance if you had a weak coil pack. Based on this intermittent issue I'm thinking it's possible you have bad gas ... I'd try topping up with premium. Fuel filter is in the gas tank and really more of a grit filter; I'd highly doubt that's it.
Edit: also I'm assuming you've checked the oil level and it's topped off? I have basically the same engine in 3 cars I maintain (Mazda5, Mazda3, Ford Focus) and it's solid and reliable. Main known issue is passenger side motor mounts failing. All well over 100k mi. And they all started without issue besides a slow crank when it was 0F degrees for a week in Chicago recently.
Answered by Neil on September 29, 2021
It sounds to me like you have a sticky injector or four. Once it warms a bit (which happens very quickly on the injectors) it will respond properly and start spraying when asked. Difficult to test at home. Try running some SeaFoam through the tank. And if you are really super cool run it through the intke manifold as well.
Answered by enderw88 on September 29, 2021
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