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Car jerks intermittently - Corolla 2007

Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair Asked on December 9, 2020

A month ago, after driving for 2 hours, my car suddenly started jerking on the highway. By the time I pulled over, the car died and everything turned off.

I was able to start the car again and exit the highway even though it was jerking at low speed. I turned off the car for 10 minutes and it wasn’t as bad after that. I managed to drive home which is 2 hours further.

The following check engine light was on

P0341 - Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit Range/Performance

but the mechanic couldn’t find anything because it was not happening anymore. They cleared the code and it hasn’t come back.

Although, 2 days after a new code appeared

P0420: Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold Bank 1

For this new code, the oxygen sensors were tested and they were fine so they suspect that the car needs a new catalytic converter.

After that, I was good for a month without any problem, but this week it started jerking again. It’s not as bad as before, the car hasn’t died on me yet but it’s weird because it’s intermittent. I drive about 10 hours every weekend and it would happen midway for about 15 minutes and then stop.

I added stp and gumout fuel injector cleaner and use premium gas but it didn’t make any difference.

Could it be the spark plugs?

There’s no check engine light for missfire.

What should I check next?

EDIT

The Jerking is back and forth as in front to back and does not change based on the speed. The intensity varies based on the day, not the rpm or the speed. Most days it’s really subtle or not present and other days it’s shakes so hard that I have to stop and restart the car. I haven’t tried to put my car to neutral while this happens. I will try next time and post an update.

EDIT

The 2 oxygen sensors were replaced and the problem would still happen but rarely.

It could be a coincidence but I noticed that it’s more frequent when the temperature is around 10-15°C so it’s only an issue during spring and fall.

Also, it happens if I reset the check engine light. I have to restart the car and the jerking will stop when the check engine light is back on.

It was fine until this week but I started hearing a rattling sound under the car and now the car starts jerking on the highway after 15 minutes. It gets so bad that I have to stop the car for 10 minutes.

Could it be related to the rattling sound?

I was wondering if it could be a clogged catalytic converter? Although, I don’t smell anything bad.

2 Answers

This could be either a drive problem, or an engine problem.

One easy check for whether it's a transmission problem is to put it in neutral, and see if the problem continues. If it does (stays relatively the same), then it's not a transmission problem (your transmission is disengaged). If it's a transmission problem, you'd start by checking fluid, and then trying to narrow it down to the transmission or the differential (probably one of those two).

I'm leaning toward it being a drivetrain problem, since that seems to match the symptoms, although the codes don't quite match. Since it doesn't change with how fast the car is moving, that limits it to the transmission.

If it's not a transmission problem, then it's an engine problem. The engine needs three things to run: fuel, air, and spark. So you'll have to start by narrowing it down to one of Gas, Airflow, or Electrical.

  • If you smell gas while the problem is happening, that probably means that the problem has to do with gas not being burnt when it should. So it's getting gas, but not burning it. Electrical or Airflow.
  • If it's a gas problem, it will probably be related to how much gas you're giving it. You mentioned that it doesn't have to do with whether you're accelerating, so my guess is that it's not a gas problem.
  • Electrical: Your engine codes seem to suggest that it might be an electrical issue of some sort. The first code might've just come on because the engine was running really rough, and the second one would tell me that the car isn't burning all the gas it's getting. You'd want to check spark first, then move to the more complicated parts such as your O2 sensor(s), MAF/MAP sensor, knock sensor, etc.
  • Airflow: If it were airflow, restarting the car wouldn't help.

Correct answer by Cullub on December 9, 2020

Supreme gas is overkill. I would consider another cleaner like Seafoam who makes a fuel additive and top cleaner sprayed into the intake. Search youtube for info on that. They even make crankcase cleaners.

In an 07, when was the last time you changed the transmission fluid? If there is a large fleck of metal floating around your transmission that would wreak havoc if the fluid hasn’t ever been changed. If you have a dipstick, Red is okay, black fluid means change immediately. Otherwise make sure the engine oil is changed sooner than every 5000 miles.

Answered by Thread on December 9, 2020

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