Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair Asked on August 20, 2021
Recently they replaced my stock radiator with aftermarket one (at dealership, so I hope they knew what they were doing), and since then I feel that a car is not warming up enough.
Even if I warm it up completely at garage – as soon as I start driving temperature drops. Driving at high speed drops it even more, when temperature outside is cold it gets worse too. I don’t have precise temperature gauge though (only 4 digital bars on gauge) so I can’t be sure.
This new radiator is smaller/thinner. Can a radiator be too “good” and cool down a car too much? Thermostat should completely disconnect radiator from the circuit if a car is cold, isn’t it?
(at dealership they say it all behaves as it should, car is not over-cooling)
Car in question is Honda Prelude’92.
If the thermostat is operating properly the radiator will only come into play when the thermostat opens, when the engine is at normal operating temperature (around 190 degrees, give or take). Adding a gigantic radiator won't make a bit of difference because if the engine gets too cold, the thermostat will close, causing the engine to heat up again.
In the winter, the cabin heater will draw around 20% of the engine's heat in order to heat you. This will cause the car to heat up slightly slower, but once it's warm it will stay that way.
It's possible that the thermostat isn't fully closing when you are driving, but works ok at idle. You might consider getting a high quality thermostat and replacing the existing one. It's also possible that the coolant temp sensor is on it's way out..
On the highway, a car produces lots of heat (at a higher RPM), which indicates to me that the thermostat is opening more (or failing to close properly) at higher RPMs since you are seeing a temp DEcrease at speed. Again, a new high quality thermostat should fix this.
Correct answer by JeremyP on August 20, 2021
The thermostat controls the temperature in the engine. It opens at a set temp, 195 degrees for example and allows coolant to flow through the radiator. If it's stuck open it would allow coolant to circulate through the radiator all the time not allowing the car to heat up properly. The complaint usually is the heater isn’t warm enough. If the thermostat sticks closed (obviously not in this case) the engine would overheat.
Too big of a radiator won’t cause the car not to warm up, however to small of a radiator could cause it to overheat.
Answered by Move More Comments Link To Top on August 20, 2021
The thinner radiator might make it easier for the cold air to flow through the engine compartment.
(The radiator itself wont cool an already cool engine at all if the thermostat is intact.)
In cold environments it is often necessary to use a grille cover to limit cold air flow to the engine.
Grille covers are especially necessary with small diesel engines not producing enough excess heat.
A typical DIY solution is a piece of cardboard.
Answered by jkj on August 20, 2021
The temperature drops when you start driving because you have more air coming into the radiator (the car is moving at higher speed). The same thing happens to my Acura Legend ('87). It'll be coolest when driving on the freeway, but if I'm stopped at a light for a while, the temperature may rises (on a hot day). Both my fans (radiator and condenser) work.
Answered by up_the_irons on August 20, 2021
Why was the rad. replaced? If because it was faulty it might have taken out the thermostat as it went. As others have said above the radiator itself can't overcool with a working thermostat.
Answered by Disputin on August 20, 2021
An oversized radiator most certainly will overcool the block. I installed a five-core diesel radiator on my 350 small-block engine, and had to go back to the original because motor could not heat past 150°F (65°C). It would climb to 195°F, thermostat would open and immediately drop temperature by 20 degrees. Verified with an IR thermometer.
The problem is, with so much more surface area being cooled by air and the larger amount of coolant in the radiator, it is so cold by the time it gets to the motor, never giving the engine a chance to stay at a proper operating temperature.
Answered by user2817 on August 20, 2021
I run an enormous race radiator with high flow spal fans, an oil cooler and an oil cooler fan and it keeps the coolant and oil at exactly 180-185F around town or on the highway, regardless of ambient temperature, even if I run the fans unnecessarily. Why doesn't it overcool? Thermostats.
It 100 percent doesn't matter how much radiator you run so long as your thermostat is working. That's how a car's cooling system works- the coolant circulates in the engine until it gets too hot and then a little is sent to the radiator and replaced with cooler coolant from the radiator. When the coolant comes down to below a certain point, the thermostat closes again. The water pump is always running and the radiator should usually (especially in cold weather) have plenty of excess cooling capacity. This is intentionally how the system is supposed to work.
Answered by Jim W on August 20, 2021
I'm having similar issue. Recently replaced 30 yr old stock radiator with a performance unit. With onset of winter, the engine initially comes to normal operating temp, but does not consistently hold it, sometimes dropping below normal. When this occurs, I also note that the system is not building pressure, and the radiator cap is not warm. The answer was very quick & easy- I blocked half of the radiator with cardboard.
Answered by Bernard Barton on August 20, 2021
The thermostat isolates the radiator when engine temperature is below the preset value. Overcooling is due to thermostat failure (staying open) and not because of an "oversized" radiator.
Answered by Eric Punzalan on August 20, 2021
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