Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair Asked by Eugen Mihailescu on August 19, 2021
I bought a CURT custom wiring harness that plugs into vehicle tail light assembly to provide a 4-way flat socket. It has a simple plug & play design that eliminates the need for cutting and splicing of the car’s original harness. It provides a wire for left turn/stop, a wire for right turn/stop, a wire for tail/side markers/license plate, and the 4th wire for the ground.
Basically this 4-way socket was supposed to be used as in the diagram provided.
The problem is that I am supposed to hook that socket into a trailer with a 7-way socket (ISO 1724).
Usually I am trying to avoid buying stuff that/if I can make as a DIY project.
Obviously I can bridge few of those 4-way socket wires to the 7-way socket:
So far so good. But what about the brake lights?
The 4-way provided assembly seems to use the same bulbs, both for turn signal and brake lights. So when the car wants to signal it probably sends a intermittent voltage through that wire, thus blinking. When the car brakes it sends a continuous (non-intermittent) voltage through that wire to the same common-shared bulb (so we interpret that as “the brake/stop light”, because it does not blink). This make me think that with a 4-way wiring you cannot have both, the turn signal and break light at the same time, because these 2 functions share a common wire/bulb (as I said earlier, is the car that simulates these functions via intermittent/continuous voltage applied to the wire).
The 7-way socket (see ISO 1724) has a separate pin for brakes/stop lamps: the red pin #6.
So basically, the problem I have is to find how to connect the green/yellow wires from the 4-way socket to the pin #6 on the 7-way connector.
If we assume that we just take the yellow/green from the 4-way socket and to link them to the pin #6 it would mean that (1) the turn signal will behave like the emergency lights and nonetheless the stop lamps will do the same and (2) while braking both the turn signal lamps and the brake lamps will light.
OK, instead of using both the green/yellow 4-way harness wires to hook them to the pin #6 (brake) on the 7-way socket I could use a single one (let’s say the Right). This means that while I am using the left turn signal it would be OK, while using the right turn it will flash both the right turn signal lamp but also the stop lights (which will look like the emergency lights). So this option is not working as well.
I don’t see any simple solution (a wiring solution) to the problem above. The only way I know it will work is by the means of an electronic circuit that will take the advantage of the fact that the turn signal has a is intermittent voltage while the stop lights has a continuous voltage.
Any idea/hint/tips that could help me take the fog from my eyes?
Thanks in advance for (1) you patience and (2) for your help.
OK, so the converter combines both the brake/turn signal into a single wire designed for a dual-filament bulb. It will send different voltage to the bulb such that either one filament is light or the other, or even both at the same time (read more).
This means that is the converter is meant for the 4-pin connector only and will not work with a 7-way socket (unless reverse engineering the whole thing). The simplest solution is to use a 7|13 -pin car specific tow hitch wiring kit (like Thule/Brink 732614) or a generic one (like AC UN-05 flash control). There are many products on the market (especially made in Germany, search for e-satz 13 polig universal).
Hope it helps!
Correct answer by Eugen Mihailescu on August 19, 2021
Have you actually tried hooking it up as you suggested and ignoring pin 6 (circuit 54) on the trailer connector? I think it is likely that the trailer is wired with a single filament for the turn signals and brake lights and that pin 6 is not connected.
One of the common ways of providing braking on a trailer towed by a car is with electric brakes. Pin 6 would be used to control the brakes. But take a look at the note for pin 6 on the Wikipedia article, there are a lot of other uses for that pin. For example besides brake control and separate brake lights, it gets used for:
If you are in an area where 7-pin connectors are common, and especially if separate bulbs/filaments are used for turn signals and brake lights then you may be better off getting a different wiring harness for the towing vehicle. In the US the flat 4-wire connector and combined brake/turn signal lights on the trailer are still common, but more and more cars have separate bulbs or filaments for the brake and turn signals so the purpose of the CURT harness that you bought is to take a vehicle that starts off compatible with a 7-pin connector and provide the outputs necessary for a trailer without the separate brake/turn signals.
Answered by dlu on August 19, 2021
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