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What's the large version of the word "cookie"?

English Language & Usage Asked on January 21, 2021

So the word “cookie” derives from the Dutch “koekje” and points to a specific kind of small, one-person sized sweet baked good. But in Dutch the word “koekje” is the small-word version of the word “koek”, which can refer to a much larger block of sweets.

For example, I made one yesterday which weighs around 1kg. It doesn’t seem to be a cake or pie or any kind of pastry, as it’s just a large, tough, crispy block of chocolate and grains.

So what would I call the whole thing in English?

3 Answers

How about Pizookie?

[Urban Dictionary]

The word itself is a portmanteau of pizza and cookie and pizookie is apparently a popular dessert in the US.

Answered by BiscuitBoy on January 21, 2021

In culinary uses, depending on the region of use (deviating in Scotland, where a 'cookie' is a type of bun, and in the UK, where what is called a 'cookie' in the US is called a 'biscuit'), a cookie is a usually a type of cake, distinguished from other types of cake by being small, flat, crisp, dry and sometimes sweet. As the core definition ('a little cake') suggests, in cookery the correct term for an oversized 'cookie' is cake. The type of cake is dry, sweet, flat, and crisp, but not small.

The culinary sense is supported by the etymology of cookie, where "Dutch koekje" is a "diminutive of koek cake" (from OED Online).

cook·ie also cook·y (ko͝ok′ē)
1. A small, usually flat and crisp cake made from sweetened dough.

[cookie. (n.d.) American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. (2011). Retrieved December 13 2015 from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cookie .]

cookie (ˈkʊkɪ) or cooky
1. (Cookery) US and Canadian a small flat dry sweet or plain cake of many varieties, baked from a dough. Also called (in Britain and certain other countries): biscuit
2. (Cookery) a Scot word for bun

[cookie. (n.d.) Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged. (1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003). Retrieved December 13 2015 from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cookie .]

cook•ie or cook•y (ˈkʊk i)
1. a small, flat, sweetened cake, often round, made from stiff dough baked on a large, flat pan (cook′ie sheet`).

[cookie. (n.d.) Random House Kernerman Webster’s College Dictionary. (2010). Retrieved December 13 2015 from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cookie .]

cookie, n.
Chiefly Sc. and N. Amer.
1. In Scotland the usual name for a baker's plain bun; in U.S. usually a small flat sweet cake (a biscuit in U.K.), but locally a name for small cakes of various form with or without sweetening. Also S. Afr. and Canad.

["cookie, n.". OED Online. December 2015. Oxford University Press. http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/40961?redirectedFrom=cookie (accessed December 13, 2015).]

Answered by JEL on January 21, 2021

So the word "cookie" derives from the Dutch "koekje" and points to a specific kind of small, one-person sized sweet baked good. But in Dutch the word "koekje" is the small-word version of the word "koek", which can refer to a much larger block of sweets.The culinary sense is supported by the etymology of cookie, where "Dutch koekje" is a "diminutive of koek cake" (from OED Online).

It really does not matter what your cake or cookie looked like or how big it is. "Koek" is the US origin of "cookie"

Koken = to cook. Koek - a cake, i.e. that which is cooked - koekje - the small and likeable thing that is cooked, -> cookie

OED

Etymology: probably < Dutch koekje /ˈkuːkjə/ diminutive of koek cake: this is apparently certain for U.S.; but for Scotland historical evidence has not been found.

It is worth noting that British English uses "biscuit" - from the French "cooked twice" (hence the idea of crispness of a cookie/biscuit), and that (the consistency and method of cooking) is what distinguishes a cake from a biscuit/cookie.

For the legal difference between cakes and biscuits, the leading case on the borderline is that concerning Jaffa cakes: United Biscuits (LON/91/0160). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cakes

Answered by Greybeard on January 21, 2021

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