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"Throw it on the pile" - where did this idiom come from?

English Language & Usage Asked by user4275571 on January 31, 2021

("throw it in the pile" or "just throw it on the pile" are also acceptable variants)

I have seen this expression being used a lot. Based on context and intuition, I figured it has an idiomatic meaning, something like this. "It" refers something that should normally be significant, but this idiom is saying that we already have so many of things like "it" that "it" is no longer important. Here, "it" can refer to any kinds of thing, physical objects, facts, abstract concepts…

I tried searching around, but all I get is a whole bunch of different places that use the same expression. This affirms the fact that this is a common idiom, but make it hard to figure out the source.

I tried to search on the idiom dictionary but got nothing.

So does anyone know the source for this? Also, is my interpretation of the phrase correct? Thank you.

(I have also seen visual gags invoking this idiom as well: a character in movie or cartoon casually throw something valuable – like gold, or medal – into a big pile of similar stuff)

You can find plenty of examples by just searching for the phrase, but here is a random webpage just to make it concrete: https://bookmachine.org/2012/04/05/pottermore-sells-1-million-in-three-days-rowling-instructs-minions-just-throw-it-on-the-pile/

2 Answers

In the days before digital working, office desks might have a pile (or tray) of incoming documents to be attended to. Similarly, in workplaces such (for example) repair workshops, there might be a pile of items awaiting repair. In both cases, new documents or items that arrived would be added to the pile. The worker might say to the person delivering a new item “Just put it on the pile”, implying that there are already many such items and that the new one is merely a small addition that must wait its turn.

By analogy, your interpretation is correct. The source of the saying lies long ago and, having its origin in the workplace as above, is probably unidentifiable.

Answered by Anton on January 31, 2021

The most relevant definition (OED) for idiom gives “a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from the meanings of the individual words.”

The problem is that "throw it on the pile" is not an idiom – it is simply that “the pile” is real or figurative.

OED:

Pile (n.) I. A heap, stack, or mass.

1a. A heap or stack of things (of considerable height) laid or lying on one another. Also figurative.

1530 J. Palsgrave Lesclarcissement 254/1 Pyle of clothes or any other heape, pille.

1567 A. Golding tr. J. Calvin Little Bk. conc. Offences f. 100v Wherupon then is builded suche a pile of Offences? [<-figurative]

And in the even more general sense:

d. Any large group or collection of things (without reference to height). Now colloquial: (in singular and plural) a large quantity, amount, or number.

1596 T. Nashe Haue with you to Saffron-Walden sig. G2 I never met with the like contrived pile of pure English. O it is devine and most admirable, & so far beyond all that ever he published heretofore.

1992 Great Lakes Fisherman Jan. 22/1 I saved a pile of time and trouble.

The figurative use is thus a common part of the language and “just throw it on the pile” is unremarkable.

The pile refers the reader/listener to a pile that he is aware of, i.e. the pile of similar or discarded items.

Answered by Greybeard on January 31, 2021

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