TransWikia.com

Permission + of + gerund - Is this grammatically acceptable to modern readers?

English Language & Usage Asked on September 3, 2021

In Jane Austen’s Emma, there is such a sentence:

Harriet was to sit again the next day; and Mr. Elton, just as he
ought, entreated for the permission of attending and reading to
them again.

It seems to me very rare to see ‘permission’ followed by a ‘of + gerund’ (for example, ‘permission of going’, etc..). You do see usage such as ‘permission for attending’ or ‘permission of the authorities’, but I seldom see ‘of’ and gerund together.

I’ve consulted 2 dictionaries of collocations as well as 5 dictionaries, but failed to find any support for this ear-jarring usage.

Would you guys agree that it is better to avoid such usage in our writings today?

One Answer

This is an odd sounding turn of phrase. I think what is happening is there are some native speakers that have a set of secondary rules for preposition selection that are basically hierarchal. This is especially common with for and of. So you have "entreated PP1". PP1 has *for the permission PP2". And PP2 has of attending and reading PP3 again. Strings of prepositional phrases don't have to be nested like this - they can just be concatenations. Some people signal the nesting by fiddling with the order of prepositions, which end up creating some odd looking phases when viewed separately, but are usually not noticed at all when spoken or read quickly. I do this to some extent, and occasionally have had to explain stuff or rewrite stuff to accommodate people who simply couldn't parse my way of assembling groups of PPs.

So even though permission for is normal, I suspect it has gotten trumped because it is an embedded preposition. The for got used up or raised to PP1, and the embedded PP2 wanted a preposition that would mark it as embedded. I haven't ever found anything written about this. I just know it exists, it varies by dialect, and can cause real confusion even among native speakers.

Answered by Phil Sweet on September 3, 2021

Add your own answers!

Ask a Question

Get help from others!

© 2024 TransWikia.com. All rights reserved. Sites we Love: PCI Database, UKBizDB, Menu Kuliner, Sharing RPP