English Language & Usage Asked on August 14, 2021
Please note I don’t need theory on who/whom usage. I need to understand the dictionary’s explanation.
I found the following article on merriam-webster.com recently:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whom
It says:
though now often considered stilted
especially as an interrogative and especially in oral use
—occasionally used as predicate nominative with a copulative verb or
as subject of a verb especially in the vicinity of a preposition or a
verb of which it might mistakenly be considered the object
Is the given explanation correct? I know you can only use whom as an object! But they say it’s occasionally used in a way we might mistakenly consider it as the object. They also provide us with the following example sentence:
people … whom you never thought would sympathize — Shea Murphy
It means ‘I never thought I would sympathize with these people.’ Is that right?
But if we would say: ‘people … who you never thought would sympathize,’
it would mean ‘I never thought these people would sympathize with anyone.’ Am I correct?
Then, based on the explanation, if whom is used as the subject, then in fact we have to use who instead of whom. But occasionally it happens that people use whom when we have to use who. How do I know the exact meaning of this sentence then (based on Merriam-Webster’s explanation)? Should I contact Shea Murphy to provide me with a clarification or what?
people … whom you never thought would sympathize — Shea Murphy
It means 'I never thought I would sympathize with these people.' Is that right?
No, “people whom you never thought would sympathize” and “people who you never thought would sympathize” mean the same thing.
The use of whom vs who does not create ambiguity here. If it meant “I never thought I would sympathize with these people”, it would have to be “people with whom I never thought I would sympathize” or “people I never thought I would sympathize with.”
Is the given explanation correct? I know you can only use whom as an object! But they say it's occasionally used in a way we might mistakenly consider it as the object.
Merriam Webster, like most well-regarded modern dictionaries, takes a generally “descriptive” viewpoint in its statements about English usage. It isn’t talking about “correctness”, it’s taking about what people actually say. It’s saying that “You can only use whom as an object” is not true from a descriptive point of view: people can and do use whom in some cases where it isn’t an object. The quotation you asked about is an example where whom is not used as an object.
Answered by herisson on August 14, 2021
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