English Language & Usage Asked on March 15, 2021
I have an American friend who pronounced the word "awe" with the same vowel as British people pronounce Thought: /ɔː/. But when I look up this word in dictionaries, they pronounce it as /ɑː/.
I’m talking about American English. Cambridge Dictionary gives /ɑː/ and pronounces it /ɑː/. Merriam Webster (the most trusted American Dictionary) gives ˈȯ but pronounces it like /ɑː/. Lexico (American) gives /ô/ /ɔ/ but pronounces it /ɑː/.
Is this a regional difference? How is it pronounced in General American? /ɑː/ or /ɔː/?
Your ear is right, those dictionaries are wrong. The proof is in the hearing, which you have done properly.
Those sources are "lying" to you. To put a finer point on it, they have committed a certain class of formal deductive error. In particular, just because some people say some instances of certain sounds differently in some words doesn't mean that all people say all instances of certain sounds differently in all words.
Therein lies the flaw.
Aristotle had a thing or two to say about such "reasoning". Then again, you have to be careful with that guy because this instance is just as bad as when Aristotle notoriously decided that women have fewer teeth than men without bothering to check his wife's mouth.
Don't forget to check their mouths.
There is no merger of the interjections because that would confuse their meaning. Each of oh, uh, ah, aw means something different, eh? Those five interjections sport a distinct vocallic phoneme allowing them to be easily distinguished when heard. Each uses a different cardinal vowel such that each is different in both sound and meaning from the next:
Here are their different meanings per the OED, with a single illustrative citation provided for each:
1977 N.Y. Rev. Bks. 4 Aug. 32/4
‘Perhaps we should, uh, wait,’ I said.
1972 G. Lucas et al. Amer. Graffiti (film script) 40
Ah, Wendy, my old love, come back here and console me.
1932 ‘Spindrift’ Yankee Slang 9
Aw! Shucks, forget it—to tender thanks for courtesy or kindness is to provoke this phrase.
2000 S. King On Writing 186
This did not..keep her from yelling ‘Oh shit!’ if she burned the roast.
1816 ‘Quiz’ Grand Master vi. 132
What have I brought you here for—eh?
It wouldn't do much good to eject an interjection if nobody could tell what you meant. So yes, these are different. Aristotle should have looked in his wife’s mouth.
Last but not necessarily least, please remember that "General American" is something of a myth, a sort of consensus-reality with little scholarship backing it. Almost every word can be, and is, pronounced nearly uncountably many ways by the billion people who speak English. You have to do real studies, ones that almost always cost real money to put on, to tease out all the myriad differences.
Even this site barely scratches the surface. Take a look at some of their transcriptions for daughter here, starting with North Carolina’s pair of diphthong versions with [ɑˑɔ] and [ɔ̈ɔ̝] as the stressed vowel:
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɑˑ open back unrounded vowel U+0251 LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɔ open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ɹ̩ voiced alveolar approximant U+0279 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R
syllabic U+0329 COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d̬ voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
voiced U+032C COMBINING CARON BELOW
ɔ̈ open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
centralized U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS
ɔ̝ open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
raised U+031D COMBINING UP TACK BELOW
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ə mid-central vowel U+0259 LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɔ̞ˑ open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
lowered U+031E COMBINING DOWN TACK BELOW
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ɹ̩ voiced alveolar approximant U+0279 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R
syllabic U+0329 COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɔː open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
long U+02D0 MODIFIER LETTER TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ɹ̩ voiced alveolar approximant U+0279 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R
syllabic U+0329 COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d̬ voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
voiced U+032C COMBINING CARON BELOW
ɔˑ open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ɹ̩ voiced alveolar approximant U+0279 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R
syllabic U+0329 COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɔˑ open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ə mid-central vowel U+0259 LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɔ̞ˑ open-mid back rounded vowel U+0254 LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O
lowered U+031E COMBINING DOWN TACK BELOW
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ə mid-central vowel U+0259 LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɒ̜ˑ open back rounded vowel U+0252 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED ALPHA
less rounded U+031C COMBINING LEFT HALF RING BELOW
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ɹ̩ voiced alveolar approximant U+0279 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R
syllabic U+0329 COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɑ̟ˑ open back unrounded vowel U+0251 LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA
advanced U+031F COMBINING PLUS SIGN BELOW
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ɚ rhotacized mid-central vowel U+025A LATIN SMALL LETTER SCHWA WITH HOOK
ˈ primary stress U+02C8 MODIFIER LETTER VERTICAL LINE
d voiced alveolar plosive U+0064 LATIN SMALL LETTER D
ɑˑ open back unrounded vowel U+0251 LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA
half-long U+02D1 MODIFIER LETTER HALF TRIANGULAR COLON
ɾ alveolar tap U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
ɹ̩ voiced alveolar approximant U+0279 LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R
syllabic U+0329 COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW
That’s just from North America, too, not the British Isles or elsewhere. Look at their site for the many other possibilities.
A dictionary is only going to include one, maybe two, pronunciations for a given word. And they aren’t going to go into the details the diacritics show, either. What about the millions and millions of people who do not use the dictionary’s choice? Do they not speak English “right”? How would they feel about being neglected?
This high level of variation means that no dictionary is ever going to manage to encapsulate the real variation that exists in the real world. There are all kinds of different influences that change what’s actually said. Do not expect a dictionary to tell you “the truth” about pronunciation, at least not when it comes down to subtle matters as fine as many you have brought to our attention. These take professional work to be seriously answered, not just dictionaries meant for the billions.
Correct answer by tchrist on March 15, 2021
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