English Language & Usage Asked on November 28, 2021
Green about the gills is a common British English expression that is used when someone is feeling queasy, or about to vomit or be sick (there’s that AmEng and BrEng divide once again). Cambridge Dictionary defines it as being old-fashioned … gasp.
to look ill and pale:
I think I get the green part. I seem to remember reading somewhere that people’s complexion change colour when they are either seasick or carsick. Obviously, they look paler, and maybe their skin adopts a sickly-yellow tinge, but green?
Now for the gills, those flaps which fish use to breathe in oxygen, I might be mistaken but I’ve only ever heard of gills being used for human beings in this idiom.
I am an amateur mushroom enthusiast and there is a mushroom that is called the "green spored parasol mushroom." It is one of the most common mushrooms mistakenly eaten that are poisonous. It causes severe vomiting. The gills are green during the more advanced stage of the mushroom. I wouldn't be surprised if this is where "green around the gills" come from.
Answered by Michele Wright on November 28, 2021
1/8th imperial pint of booze was called a "jack" or "noggin"(attested since the 1600s). 1/4 pint, whoa! That was called a "gill". (pronounced Jill) Have a couple gills (= 1 US cup) and you are done, alright. You've had it to the gills. Later, in the 1800s (as noted above) the term morphed into the multi-colored fish organ as people often read/spoke it with a hard G.
Answered by Jack on November 28, 2021
Despite what the original poster said, "green around the gills", meaning sickly-looking, is a common phrase in America as well as in Britain.
Answered by John Eldredge on November 28, 2021
The expression green /white around the gills, meaning "somewhat pale, as from being sickly, nervous, or frightened", became popular from the early '30s but it is from the mid-1800. It probably refers to an earlier usage of gills meaning "face":
- When he heard how much the bill was, he looked a little green around the gills.
The notion of green to refer to looking ill is quite old: (Etymonline)
- From mid-13c. in reference to the skin or complexion of one sick.
Gill:
The organ that enables most aquatic animals to take dissolved oxygen from the water. It consists of a series of membranes that have many small blood vessels. Oxygen passes into the bloodstream and carbon dioxide passes out of it as water flows across the membranes.
Green around the gills adjective phrase
- Sick-looking; pale and miserable; nauseated : He was looking green around the gills, so I told him to lie down
[1930s+; the date should probably be earlier; gills, ''face,'' is found by 1626]
pale around the gills adjective phrase
- Looking sickly or nauseous (1959+)
(The Dictionary of American Slang, Fourth Edition by Barbara Ann Kipfer, PhD. and Robert L. Chapman, Ph.D.)
The following extract from Wordwizard shows that similar expressions with "gills" referring to the lower part of the face were used in earlier centuries like "rosy about the gillS:
Green around/about the gills:
Looking ill, nauseated, pale and miserable, possibly from the effects of overeatng or motion sickness. “When she got off the rollercoaster she was feeling green around the gills.” A green complexion has signified illness since about 1300 and ‘gills’ carries the figurative meaning of the skin beneath the jaws and ears.
Rosy about the gills’ has meant being in good health since the late 17th century. Sir Francis Bacon used ‘red about the gills’ to signify anger (1626), whereas in the 19th century ‘white’ and ‘yellow’ about the gills meant looking ill. However, the alliterative green won out and surivives in the present day expression.
Blue around the gills is also sometimes used. And fishy about the gills refers to being hung over.
1902 “*She was shivering, and looked blue around the gills, as if half frozen.”–‘New York Times, 29 March, page SM6*.
1903 “. . . *and then he’d look green around the gills and sighed . . .”—‘Los Angeles Times,’ 3 July, page 16*
1932 “*The poor workman turned dark gree around the gills and began to tremble.”—‘Los Angeles Times,’ 10 July, page 15*
Note: In checking the quotes I came up with (not all of which are displayed above), it appears that "blue around the gills", which I was not familiar with, was used more than I had suspected, so that Spielberg’s only real transgression, if there is one, is in the use of the word IN which is never found, as far as I could determine, in combination with "gills".
(Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang, Facts on File Dictionary of Clichés, American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms, Chapman’s Dictionary of Slang, Picturesque Expressions by Urdang)
Answered by user66974 on November 28, 2021
From comments:
Grammarist says:
“The origin of this idiom is lost, though it seems to have appeared in the mid-1800s. Fish gills are normally red. Presumably, a fish with green gills is a sick fish.” — @FumbleFingers
@FumbleFingers More likely a stale fish, especially in the days before refrigeration. — Mick
@Mick It's all pure speculation, and obviously the synonymous I feel rotten has that "stale, putrefied" allusion. But one place you'd be particularly likely to feel green/queasy would be on a (fishing) boat. – FumbleFingers
@FumbleFingers Exactly! Maybe it's a fisherman's idiom. I'm wondering if "full [stuffed] to the gills" is a corruption of "full to the gunwhales" [pronounced gunnels] (the top of the deck where water can drain back into the sea). – Mick
Idioms.in says that the origin is 'unavailable'. They define the expression:
Just before a person is about to vomit, their cheeks and lips turn pale and eyes become half lidded; this is known as getting green around the gills. The phrase is also referred to for motion, car or even sea sickness.'
I can assure you from personal experience that a pale greenish caste is quite possible to attain. At least in a small fishing boat in the North Sea off Bridlington in a heavyish swell. – Edwin Ashworth
There is also the phrase stuffed to the gills (and variants) -- meaning "completely full". – Mick
AHD addresses Q2: << 2b. gills Informal The area around the chin and neck. >> – Edwin Ashworth
Answered by Lawrence on November 28, 2021
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