How to pronounce fractions with denominators larger than 20 where the last digit of the denominator is 1 or 2? eg 4/31

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Disclaimer: I speak British English.  I've noticed a lot of differences between the way Americans and Brits pronounce numbers.1  Since the question concerns this, I thought it might be appropriate to draw attention to it case we inadvertently confuse each other.  My question is not about these differences, I just wish to highlight them in case they cause confusion.

1. You seem to happily call a quarter "a fourth" sometimes,
we always call 131 "one hundred and thirty one",
we pronounce double digits in phone numbers like 12449 as "one two double four nine", and
I think we are much more likely to use expressions like "thirteen hundred" to mean 1300.

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When talking about fractions, I have frequently heard

1/2    a half
1/3    a third
1/4    a quarter
1/8    an eighth
1/64   a sixty fourth
1/56   a fifty sixth

etc.

Essentially the rule seems to be that, except for "a whole", "a half", and "a quarter", the word matches the ordinal number; that is to say:

Numeral       Ordinal         Fractional
    one           first           whole
    two           second          half
    three         third           third
    four          fourth          quarter
    five          fifth           fifth
    six           sixth           sixth
    fifty-seven   fifty-seventh   fifty-seventh

Even though 1/4 is a quarter, 1/64 is a sixty-fourth.

So what’s 1/62?  A  sixty-twoth?  A sixty-second? Surely not a sixty-half!

I know that simply saying one over sixty-two can usually work, but I'm asking specifically for the word itself, i.e.  if I divide a huge pizza into 21 pieces, what are the pieces?  Other than baker’s twentieths.

Summary: Can anyone point me to any sources (whether style guides or common usage studies or anything else) that discuss the pronunciation of fractions; specifically one that discusses this separately from ordinal numbers, rather than how to form ordinal numbers in the first place.

Peter Shor · Accepted Answer

You asked for sources.

Americans pronounce fractions with denominators ending with 1, 2, 3, as in twenty-firsts, twenty-seconds, twenty-thirds. For confirmation, here is a definition from
Merriam-Webster, one of the canonical American dictionaries.

thirty-second 2 : the quotient of a unit divided by 32 :  one of 32 equal parts of anything <one thirty-second of the total>

The word thirty-twoth does not appear in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, no matter how you spell it. While a few people may use thirty-twoth, it's definitely non-standard.

There is a difference when the denominator is 4. Americans use both fourths and quarters for one piece of something divided into four equal parts (except for hours, which are always quarter hours) while in the U.K., these are usually quarters. 
Oxford Dictionaries Online has

fourth 2. chiefly North American A quarter:
  'nearly three fourths of that money is now gone'

Merriam-Webster has both

fourth : one of four equal parts of something
    quarter : one of four equal parts of something

chasly - supports Monica · Answer

Definitely  a sixty-first and a sixty-second as far as I am concerned - no doubt about it.  (Mid to South England)

Not that either would come up very often!

bib · Answer

In the US, the general rule is the ordinal form is based on the last element in the numeral.

sixty-eighth
  one hundred twenty-ninth
  one thousandth
  one thousand-seventh

This does not change when the discussing the denominator of fractions, regardless of whether the numerator is singular or plural

one thirteenth
  one sixty-first
  three thirty-fourths
  six twentieths

There are exceptions

first
  second
  third
  fifth (although this seems to be a phonetic morph of fiveth)
  half
  whole
  quarter

The exceptions carry over to more complex ordinals

sixty-second
  three thirty-thirds

Supplement (based on OP's further comments)

The fractional form, at least in US usage, uses the ordinal form for the denominator with only three (I think) exceptions - whole, half and quarter. And quarter is also regularly expressed as fourth.

Specifically 1/62 is either one sixty-second or a sixty-second. The 21 pizza slices are each one twenty-first of the pie (hardly worth eating!).

As to the footnotes, 131 is either one hundred thirty one or less commonly one hundred and thirty one. If it were the denominator of the fraction 1/131, it would be one one hundred thirty-first.

The pronunciation of multi-digit numbers varies based on what the numbers are used for. Telephone numbers are read differently from monetary numbers or counts of widgets, and there are variations within categories depending on the number (area code 212 is almost always pronounced two one two, rarely two twelve, never two hundred twelve, but area code 800 is read eight hundred). If you want to discuss that issue, it probably warrants a separate question.

Nicholas Shanks · Answer

1/21: a twenty-first, or
1/22: one twenty-second
7/21: seven twenty-firsts
8/22: eight twenty-seconds

AmbroseChapel · Answer

I feel that while "a thirty-second" is a perfectly good way to express 1/32, it's ambiguous and unusual. I would want to add the slightly archaic "part" onto the end: "a thirty-second part of this pizza" etc.

Answered by AmbroseChapel on June 3, 2021

Paul Rowe · Answer

When using fractions in speech, the numerator is properly spoken as a cardinal ("one", "two", "three"). Except in certain cases, the denominator is properly spoken as an ordinal ("third", "fourth", "fifth"). The exceptions are "whole" (one part) and "half" (two parts). There is at least one alternate denominator where "quarter" can be used instead of "fourth".

When speaking numbers in American English, "and" properly indicates a decimal point or the breaking point between the whole and fractional parts of a compound fraction; it doesn't belong anywhere else. British English doesn't have this prescription and practice certainly deviates from this in America as well, introducing the potential for confusion.

In American English, the numeral 131 would properly be read "one hundred thirty-one", though, as you indicated, it would be common to hear it as "one hundred and thirty-one". The fraction 1/131 would be read "one one-hundred-thirty-first", "one over one hundred thirty-one", or "one over one hundred and thirty-one", but "one one-hundred-and-thirty-first" certainly sounds wrong to my ear. The confusion enters when someone says something like "one hundred and thirty-one thousandths": Are we talking about 131/1000 (0.131) or 100-31/1000 (100.031)?

Music is one of the few places where you'll encounter these sorts of fractions anymore because note durations are negative powers of two. Instead of going with a long stream of semi-, hemi-, and demi- prefixes, the ordinal is used in English, so you will encounter:

whole notes and whole rests
half notes and half rests
quarter notes and quarter rests
eighth notes and eighth rests
sixteenth notes and sixteenth rests
thirty-second notes and thirty-second rests
sixty-fourth notes and sixty-fourth rests
one-hundred-twenty-eighth notes and one-hundred-twenty-eighth rests

It's rare to see sixty-fourth notes or one-hundred-twenty-eighth notes, but the language of music certainly allows for it. Note "thirty-second notes": Per the rule, this complies with using the ordinal to speak the denominator.

alsa · Answer

I agree with "chasly from uk" and add that (1) the same applies in the City of London and (2) from "Dizionario di Inglese - Volume Secondo - Italiano-Inglese (Paravia 2002, but originally Oxford University Press 2001): 21° = twenty-first, 22° = twenty-second, 31° = thirty-first, 32° = thirty-second, etc.

Answered by alsa on June 3, 2021

How to pronounce fractions with denominators larger than 20 where the last digit of the denominator is 1 or 2? eg 4/31

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