Computational Science Asked by contain100pctrecycledfibre on January 13, 2021
I was messing around with some numerical integration functions. I wrote an arbitrary differential equation to test my understanding, the code is as follows:
import numpy as np
from scipy.integrate import odeint
intT = np.array([0,1,2,3,4,6,8,10,13,16,19,20,21,22,27,40,80])
def dydt(y,t):
dydt = np.random.choice([0,1], 1)[0]
return dydt
yInt = odeint(dydt, 0, intT)
print(yInt)
Outputs:
[[0.00000000e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[2.21317648e-001]
[3.22131765e+000]
[3.62733355e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[2.42092166e-322]
[2.70777855e-316]
[2.81469831e-316]
[0.00000000e+000]
[0.00000000e+000]
[7.11454530e-322]]
/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/scipy/integrate/odepack.py:236: ODEintWarning: Excess work done on this call (perhaps wrong Dfun type). Run with full_output = 1 to get quantitative information.
warnings.warn(warning_msg, ODEintWarning)
This gave me very weird results, and that was not what I was expecting. If I change return value of dydt into 1, then this simple integration surely just works properly. What I was actually trying to do is to apply a predetermined window function to my differential equation, this code above is a simplified version I would imagine. But I just don’t get what is wrong here. I wonder if you have any thoughts.
Thanks!
Thanks to @Lutz Lehmann. I was trying to integrate some breathing function, who spikes every 100 time intervals. I had another shot as follows, this doesn’t work either. And I notice this seems to be very tricky, if I change my window function and differential equation, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. I kind of understand the smoothness issue, but I just wonder if there is a way to handle this problem. I initially had a numerical integration script by myself, but it works way slower, that’s why I turned to the scipy integrate library.
intT = (np.arange(1, 1000) + 0.1)
def arbWindow(t):
w = np.exp(1/t - t/10)
return w
def dydt(y,t):
dydt = arbWindow(t%100) - 0.01*y**2
return dydt
yInt = odeint(dydt, 0, intT)
This use of the numerical solver is completely wrong. The numerical ODE solvers are for problems that have a smooth right side. As long as the existence of an exact solution is ensured, they can also be applied to problems where the right side is piecewise smooth, but that will tend to slow down the integration with very small step sizes at the discontinuities.
But here the right side function is not even a function, as the value changes randomly even if the same arguments are given. From inside the algorithm this will look as if the function is highly oscillatory, or discontinuous on all scales, requiring smaller and smaller step sizes without finding a scale where the problem looks smooth at this zoom level. This then leads to the Excess work done on this call
error message.
Answered by Lutz Lehmann on January 13, 2021
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