Board & Card Games Asked on November 17, 2021
I want to cast Goblin Grenade, but my opponent wants to counter it. Can I prevent them doing so like this?:
Can he counter the spell, or does the destruction of the Island happen before he can play Counterspell, since it’s a direct result not of my spell itself, but of paying its cost?
A shorter version of Arcanist Lupus' answer: when you pay a cost, the specific action that is the cost happens immediately. If something has a mana cost, the mana is immediately removed from your mana pool. If sacrificing a creature is part of the cost, the creature is immediately sacrificed. The act of paying a cost doesn't use the stack, and cannot be responded to. However, anything that triggers as a result of paying the cost, rather than being the cost in and of itself, does use the stack, and can be responded to. Even though Goblin Gardener says "When Goblin Gardener dies, destroy target land", that doesn't mean that the destruction of the land occurs at the same time as the creature dying. Abilities worded "When X, Y" really mean "When X, put Y on the stack".
Answered by Acccumulation on November 17, 2021
Here is what happens, step by step.
Now the game checks to see if any abilities have triggered. It sees the Goblin Gardener trigger, and you put that ability onto the stack above the Goblin Grenade. You choose the target for the ability.
Now there is both a spell and an ability on the stack. Neither resolves quite yet.
Now you get priority, which means you can cast any instants or spells with flash, or activate any abilities that you want. If you do not wish to do so, you will pass priority to the your opponent, who could choose to do the same.
When your opponent gets priority, they can cast Counterspell, moving it onto the stack, choosing Goblin Grenade as the target, and tapping the targeted land to use its mana ability as part of paying the cost.
Even if they do not wish to cast Counterspell quite yet, they can also choose to activate the targeted land's mana ability, tapping it to gain the blue mana. The mana will not vanish until the phase or step ends, which will be after all spells and abilities on the stack have resolved and all players have passed priority. If your opponent wanted to, they could tap the island, let the gardener ability resolve, and then cast Counterspell with the mana they gained. Or they could simply cast Counterspell while the Gardener ability is on the stack, and counter the Grenade before the land is destroyed.
Either way, they can easily Counterspell the grenade if they desire.
Answered by Arcanist Lupus on November 17, 2021
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