Bicycles Asked by aldorado on January 29, 2021
I bought a new Brooks flyer and applied the first layer of Proofide that came with the saddle.
Considering the price of a full can of Proofide – and also because I am the kind of person who likes to try new stuff:
Are there any Proofide alternatives that worked in your experience (and did not ruin that expensive saddle)?
Did anybody try coconut oil? Will it spoil?
Thanks for your experiences!
Edit: I know that the price of Proofide is still very low in comparison with a new saddle – so it probably makes sense to buy it, but I am still curious for other experiences.
There are other brands of leather saddle wax I would consider, but I would be careful about trying random leather conditioner products. If you make the leather too soft you can permanently wreck the saddle.
Hammock type saddles work by being stiff, not soft. The stiff saddle doesn’t sag much and therefore supports your weight across a wider area. The break-in period is critical as this where you add micro-tears to the leather to reduce any pressure hot spots (e.g., sit bones). Over time this stretching in high pressure hotspots evens out the pressure over the wide contact area, providing the custom fit these saddles are known for.
This works because:
This indicates a fine balance between stiffness with some ability to stretch. Now soften the leather too much. It will sag too much under your weight concentrating pressure in a central hot spot. You can try and add tension to the saddle to the adjuster (which stretches the saddle), but there is only a limited range of adjustments so you may not be able to add sufficient tension, plus you will have effectively shortened the saddle life (i.e., less future ability to add tension).
Now realize most leather conditioners are designed to make leather soft, saddle waxes are designed to maintain stiffness and leather life by providing some water resistance plus a vey small amount of conditioners to offset the leather drying out. The optimal blend depends on the leather grade used, which the saddle manufacturers should know.
Given that it is fairly easy to wreck a leather saddle if you make the leather too soft (e.g., riding for long periods if it’s too wet), this isn’t something worth playing with unless you are will to write-off the saddle or shorten the service life.
Answered by Rider_X on January 29, 2021
I have various waxes from bees ("beeswaxes"?) that work great on normal leather, where suppleness and water resistance are important, like gloves.
But when used on a leather belt it stretched a good 5% within a week. Sadly I didn't suddenly loose 5% of my waistline, it was the belt lengthening.
If you used a beeswax product on your nice leather saddle, expect it to stretch and need re-tensioning pretty quickly.
Upshot - use the right stuff, as recommended by manufacturer. That way any warranty claim won't be invalidated by using the wrong product.
Answered by Criggie on January 29, 2021
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