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Shimano 105 R7000 drivetrain makes crackling sound

Bicycles Asked on June 9, 2021

I got an Shimano R7000 groupset and have the following problem:

After degreasing my chainrings (54 – 36) and the cassette (28 – 11), the drivetrain makes normal noise. However after around 30km, the rear cassette (or chain?) begins to make noise in the lower gears. It is very noticable in the 36 – 28 (the smallest gear), 36 – 25 (2nd smallest gear), and 36 – 23 (3rd smallest gear) combination. Interestingly, the 36 – 21 or any higher combination does not produce the crackling sound.

I made a video which illustrates the behavior. I‘m starting in the 36 – 21 combination which makes normal noise. When shifting in a lower combination, you can hear the crackling sound. At the end, I shift back in the 36 – 21 combination which is totally fine.

Questions:

  1. Does anybody experience a similar behavior when the drivetrain is dirty?
  2. Is there anything to fix this crackling sound?

Additional information 2019-07-09:

  • Indexing: I don‘t think the indexing causes the crackling sounds, because i experimented with the barrel adjuster and it had no effect on the crackling sounds – it only effected my shifting
  • L-limit screw: Is set correctly (see photo below)
  • Derailleur cage: In my eyes, it seems a little bit bent. It is the normal position of a Shimano cage? (See photo below)

my derailleur position


Additional information 2019-07-30:

  • I changed the chain, no effect. Can the spokes produce such a pinging sound? If yes, how can I check spoke tension?

3 Answers

After two years of trial en error i got the culprit: The last three cogs of the cassette come as a trio. This trio touches the back of the body at designated areas (see left side of picture below). When I apply a little grease on all of these areas before putting on the trio (see right side of picture below), the crackling sound disappears.

Grease on the hub where the cassette touches the back of the hub body

After a few hundred kilometers, the crackling sound reappears, presumably because dirt and grime make their way between the cassette and these areas. I then remove the cassette, clean it and put it together like described.

Correct answer by piptoma on June 9, 2021

It sounds like your derailleur indexing is bad. The 'crackle' is the chain trying to climb the shift ramps on the next largest sprocket then falling off.

It may be that your derailleur indexing is badly adjusted. You can run through a rear derailleur adjustment process and see if this fixes the problem.

You should also check that your derailleur is aligned properly. The derailleur hanger can get bent so that the derailleur cage is not longer parallel to the rear wheel. If you pick rear wheel of the bike up and look down the line of the chain you can see if the cage is grossly out of alignment if it is not parallel to the chainrings. A bike repair shop can check and re-align the hanger.

Another possibility is that the chain is catching in one of the jockey wheels in the cage. If you hold the rear wheel off the ground and pedal manually you should be able to see this easily.

Answered by Argenti Apparatus on June 9, 2021

I'm going with the suspicion this just some form of front derailleur rub. It's only happening with combinations of the leftmost front ring and leftmost rear sprockets. The temporary relief obtained from lubrication is also consistent with rub. Frame flex is why it doesn't reproduce on the bike stand. Front-side cross-chaining issues are sensitive to frame flex, because the rings basically tilt relative to the plane of the bike's frame when you put your weight into the pedals. The hypothesis is easily confirmed or refuted with a simple front adjustment.

Answered by Kaz on June 9, 2021

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