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Shift lever and rear derailleur compatibility

Bicycles Asked by Michael Freimann on June 7, 2021

I have got MTB with Shimano RD-M410 Alivio Rear Derailleur 8 speed. It has brake/shift lever for it model ST-EF50-8R. I would like to move to disc brakes and therefore want to change to ST-EF505 shift/brake lever. Does anyone know if it is compatible with the Alivio RD-M410 rear derailleur?

Actually I plan on buying the 8 speed version of the st-ef505-r. https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/acera-m3000/ST-EF505-8R.html Does it have the same cable pull as the st-ef50-8r?

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For readers, the ST-EF505-R is a 9 speed shifter with hydraulic brake lever combined. The cable pull on 8 and 9 speed is the same, so you will be able to use the ST-EF505-R on your bike.

While there is nothing inherently wrong with combined units, personally I prefer a separate brake and shifter. If you are buying disc brakes it may work out cheaper to by a complete brake set and then a suitable shifter, so its an option certainly worth considering.

I suggest before proceeding familiarize yourself with the many discussions here and elsewhere about disc brake upgrades, in terms of both difficulties and cost. Properly setup quality V brakes with good pads can be very effective.

Answered by mattnz on June 7, 2021

Yes, you can use any Shimano 8 speed shifter with a Shimano 8 speed derailleur and cassette.

Generally Shimano (and SRAM) used the same sprocket spacing for all cassettes with the same number of sprockets (more sprockets means narrower spacing though). All MTB shifters up to 9 speed use the same cable actuation ratio (ratio of cable pulled to cage movement), and all shifters pull the right amount of cable per shift for the number of speeds they are for.

Answered by Argenti Apparatus on June 7, 2021

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