Bicycles Asked by AlexStack on April 12, 2021
It’s my first tire change experience and I got so far using youtube videos but now I’m stuck.
Got these Schwalbe 365 tires yesterday for my folding bike.
It is an all season model which feels a bit harder than the tire that was on the bike from the factory but both are 40-406 20×1.5″.
The bead doesn’t sit properly on the rim. This is the case from both sides as seen in the images. There’s a small misalignment between where the problem manifests itself on each side of the rim.
The tube is also brand new (Continental). The temprature in the bicycle room where I tried is around 16-22 deg.
Hadn’t used soapy water when installing the tire and can’t measure tire pressure (it’s recommended 3-6 bar).
What do you recommend to solve the issue?
Update: bought a pump with gauge, rotated the tire and used a bit of liquid soap to end up with this result:
One thing that I discovered today is that the tire is literally tighter at the point where there’s a problem which makes me think the tire might have some issues due to how it was stored I the shop. But that would be too sad because despite the issues I really like these tires.
The tire sidewall is just hung up on the rim a little. It’s a common problem.
Deflate the tire until you can deform it a little with your hands, rotate the wheel so the problematic section is at the top. Grab the tire from the side and lever it back and forth. You should be able to pop it out so the bead sits on the rim properly.
BTW, a pressure gauge is a good investment so you know you are inflating your tire to the proper pressure.
Here's a link to Park Tool's video on tire installation, at the point it addresses the bead being too high or low.
.Correct answer by Argenti Apparatus on April 12, 2021
Pump up the tire more until it seats itself properly on the rim. Deflate to desired pressure afterwards.
Answered by unnic on April 12, 2021
Make sure the tire is properly seated and the tube is not pinched anywhere. Then pump up to maximum allowed pressure (or even slightly higher). If the tube is pinched anywhere it will rupture with a very loud bang. If you are unsure, better wear some hearing protection or do it outside and keep as much distance to your head as possible.
Deflate to desired pressure afterwards.
Sometimes it’s actually the reflective stripe which is misaligned.
Answered by Michael on April 12, 2021
Sometimes I've found that pumping up the tyre to the rated pressure (or a little over), deflating most of the way, and pumping up again does the trick. You can chuck some water on the bead while its deflated (I use plain rather than soapy water for that; it's not as effective but doesn't leave a slippery residue)
You can also try riding a few hundred metres gently with the tyre fairly soft then pumping up hard.
A pump with a pressure gauge is really useful for stubborn tyres, I run mainly Schwalbe, and some of theirs can be tricky, though I've had worse.
Answered by Chris H on April 12, 2021
Not sure if this helps, but I've had this exact same problem seating some schwalbe g-ones. They were tubeless tyres and I'd put tubes in them.
It didn't matter what i did, and I basically followed all of the above suggestions, they'd never seat properly.
The moment I removed the tubes and ran them tubeless they seated perfectly, clicked into the rims @ about 80 psi and I've never had any subsequent issues with them. The issue appeared at a random point just as yours have.
I have a sneaking suspicion that it was that the tubes put pressure on the wrong part of the tyre as its inflated. So my suggestion is that you try with a different diameter tube. I'm not sure if it should be larger or smaller, but give it a go with one you have handy.
Hope this helps.
Answered by Noshy on April 12, 2021
When I fitted a new Schwalbe Marathon Plus, it kept bulging near the valve when I tried to inflate it. The solution was to replace the inner tube with a smaller one. I also discovered that the trick to getting the tyre on is to secure it with cords or cable ties as you work around, to stop one side slipping off. Edit: Thanks to the guys who suggested this in their responses.
Answered by Les Reay on April 12, 2021
Dont rule out the RIM Tape. I was led to this post because I was having problems mounting some 30mm and 32mm tyres on a front rim. I ruined the first tyre being a little too aggressive. When I had the same problem with the second tyre I started to wonder if there was a problem with the rim itself.
Did the soap, did the higher than recommended pressure...still no luck. Looking closer at the wheel after taking the tyre off I wondered if the fabric rim tape that was used could have been my problem. Replaced the fabric rim take with some of that yellow plastic tape rim tape and on my next attempt the tyre seated perfectly.
The rim in question was shallow and I think there was just enough friction with teh fabric tape to prevent the bead moving to the edge.
Shame about the first ruined tyre but I am happy that I got this seated on the second tyre.
Answered by Dexos on April 12, 2021
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