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Is My Rim Cracked?

Bicycles Asked by Black Eye Sweet on September 1, 2021

  1. Is my rim cracked?
  2. Do I need to replace my rim?
  3. Do I need to replace my wheel? (See left/first picture).
  4. If either 2 or 3 is Yes, what’s the most frugal way to go about it?

Picture 1Picture 2

Notes

This is the rear rim.
The "cracks" feel very shallow.
The cracks are at different locations on the rim (180 degrees apart).
I bought this bicycle used (2017 Trek FX7.3) last week, and everything else is working perfectly. The seller said that he just had it tuned, and I believe him because the brakes, the shifting, and wheel truing felt perfect. Also, it was very clean. I did not get into any crashes nor drove into potholes. Honestly, I spent 10 minutes looking over the bike before buying it, but I can’t remember if the "cracks" were there. I might have ignored them because I was blinded of how perfect everything else felt.

Update 1

I just checked 180 degrees opposite the valve, and I did see a joint on both sides of the rim. Those were more subtle than the damage found in the 2 pictures.
Referring to the 1st picture, there is a similar damage to the exact opposite side of the rim.
New picture (picture 3) shows the depth of the cut of picture 1.

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Update 2

  1. Searching the serial number on BikeIndex.org, I found out that the bike was stolen 6 months ago from someone’s apartment, and the U-Lock was cut. Good job folks on the investigation!
  2. Before selling it to me, the seller told me that he bought it 2nd hand during the beginning of summer (around 6 months ago)
  3. The seller is on offer up and I know his home address. He is still replying to my messages though, and he seemed very friendly.
  4. The price was good but not amazing ($460), that’s why I assumed no theft. And the user profile showed no other sales of bicycles.
  5. How do I proceed?

Update 3

The seller provided me with the original offerup link with the original seller of the bike to him. He bought the bike 40 days after the bike was reported as stolen on BikeIndex.org. The original seller was a woman, so was the person from whom the bike was stolen. I still did not contact the original seller, nor I told my direct seller that the bike he sold to me was stolen. I also did not contact the police nor the original owner yet.

5 Answers

It does not look like a crack, but a very very deep gouge from a rock or something.

I think it would be wise to replace the rear tire either way based on the sidewall gash and cotton weave being cut there. Sidewall blowouts are hard to control after the tire fails.

I guess I have never seen damage to the rim track in that manner. Without seeing it in person, and knowing anything about the wheel, it is tough to say whether it is good to go.

The answer could range from lightly sand the rim track with sand paper to remove any burs and ride the wheel to that is going to be a weak point for the rim.

I lean a bit towards that will be a weak point that can fail down the road because there is not a ton of material in that area of the wheel. If it was me, I would reach out the manufacturer to see what they think and if they have a crash/damage discounted replacement price as some companies like Bontrager will work on a case by case basis to do the right thing by the customer even if it is not their fault. If it was me, I would keep that wheel for perhaps an indoor trainer and get a replacement to ride on the roads.

Sorry to say that as I know the feeling coming back from a ride and seeing a gash in $60 dollar tires, but it certainly stinks way more when it gets into the wheel. It also is worse when you just bought a bike from someone. You may want to ask the seller about it and see if they are willing to refund you some money for a new wheel as they almost certainly knew it was there from what you describe.

Answered by Tude Productions on September 1, 2021

I think generally the consensus is that brake tracks (i.e. rim sidewalls) can safely be worn down to about 1mm of thickness. New rims have 1.5 – 2mm thickness. If the rim is new, the gouge less than 0.5mm deep and there is no other damage I wouldn’t worry at all. Sand with some sand paper to avoid stress concentration along the sharp edges.

If there is less material remaining it could be unsafe, but I think with brake tracks the problem is usually them bending outwards due to the tire pressure. The gouge wouldn’t really weaken it.

Answered by Michael on September 1, 2021

The first photo is just the rim’s seam as Carel mentioned. Of greater concern is the rip in the tire that’s directly above it. I would just patch it with a tire boot such as this one: https://www.parktool.com/product/emergency-tire-boot-tb-2 Flex Tape or a similar strong tape would work too.

The second photo looks worse. See that black line at the very top of the gash? I suspect that the rim has been cut all the way through. If that’s the case, the rim will be very susceptible to failing. To check, remove the tire and shine a flashlight on the damage. If you can see light going through to the other side, the rim is mortally damaged. In a pinch, you could use a very strong epoxy like JB Weld to reinforce the area, but there’s no guarantee this would be a permanent fix.

Edit: with the additional information that photo #1 is indeed not the rim’s seam, the rim is pretty much done for. I have no clue how that kind of damage could even happen, but it sure looks sketchy to me. You should definitely consult the person you bought it from for more info.

Answered by MaplePanda on September 1, 2021

I will be the suspicious person, and I will wander a bit off-topic. No offense intended, I will only describe a worst-case scenario.

I make one assumption: did you buy it second-hand because the price was a very good one (given the general condition you could see from the picture)?

The bike was very clean:

  • recently bought? that would explain it.
  • cleaned thoroughly to fool buyers to cover up possible damages? that could explain it

The cut you show in the first picture is quite straight and it hits the tire as well:

  • was the bike released from a lock by using an angle grinder? A mishap with the grinder can explain both the cut on the tire, on the rim, as well as the bike having a good price and being very clean.

So yes, the rim has been cracked by an external force. If you have a proper receipt for the bicycle, you can contact the shop and ask for a replacement, maybe there is some sort of warranty, maybe they will be happy to assist you.

EDIT after UPDATE #2

Contact a lawyer. I am a pragmatic guy (if you are an optimist, you would consider me a pessimist).

  • You have no written proof you bought the bike second hand, you may be identified as the thief;
  • buying and selling stolen goods is a crime, depending on the country where you live/concluded the transaction you would have to prove (during a trial, with lawyers and all the bandwagon) that you genuinely thought the seller was legally selling something he owned.

Sure, you think you know where the seller lives, but it may be faking to be someone else (a flat mate?). A minimum that may not save your ass, but still spare you some troubles, would be getting a receipt from the seller. You can be the nice guy bringing back home the stolen bike, but remember a lot of nice persons get jail time and/or hefty fines.

Again, get in touch with a lawyer. If you think you cannot afford a lawyer, you may find some legal help through your school/universities/local NGOs...

Finally, a last suggestion: get in touch with a lawyer.

Answered by EarlGrey on September 1, 2021

  1. EarlGrey is right. See a lawyer. In the US, lawyers will often give an initial half hour or hour of consultation free. Otherwise, even if you have to pay $50-100 for a basic initial evaluation and advice, that makes sense to me.
  2. Does OfferUp have a money-back guarantee if you are sold stolen goods or other illegal item? Looking at their terms and conditions might be useful.
  3. I find it unlikely that your direct seller didn't notice the cut marks. They may not be a trustworthy reporter of how they got the bike. Bike theft is often an organized ecosystem in the US these days. Even if they did get the bike six months ago, perhaps that person was a confederate, and as with stolen cars, they were letting the bike cool off before trying to sell it while trying to obscure its ownership trail.

Answered by Armand on September 1, 2021

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