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Identifying extra triggers in a speedometer

Bicycles Asked on March 3, 2021

The HRM, GPS, and cadence in my cyclocomputer give perfectly good readings, but the speedometer (and hence the odometer) readings are obviously incorrect.

Because the speed and distance readings seem to be just about twice what they should be, I’m guessing that something other than the dedicated magnet is triggering the extra events.

Presta valve near receiver

Might the Presta valve be magnetized and provide that extraneous trigger? Since the cadence and wheel receiver are in the same piece, there is not a lot of flexibility in moving the dual-receiver far away from the valve.

Have you been there? What are some ideas to debug this issue?

3 Answers

The problem went away after a firmware update. The most likely interpretation is that the reed switch is generating two pulses for each pass of the magnet, but now each double-pulse is interpreted in software as a single pulse. It's not ideal (hardware with one defect has a higher chance of also having other issues), but it's accurate.

Correct answer by Sam on March 3, 2021

There are two causes of extra counts:

  1. Reed switch double closure
  2. Radio interference (in an analog radio based wireless cyclocomputer)

The source (1) can happen all the time or rarely. If the magnet is incorrectly oriented, it may happen all the time in such great proportions that the speedometer and thus odometer reads incorrect values. In this case, the reading is almost always double of the true reading. If the magnet is nearly correctly oriented, it may happen only when riding at high speed over bumps (due to momentary vibration during reed switch closure), causing a very momentary error practically only in the maximum speed reading of the speedometer and not any odometer errors.

The source (1) can be avoided by using a high quality brand name (example: Sigma) cyclocomputer that is resistant to double closure and by orienting the magnet and the reed switch sensor correctly. See the instructions of the cyclocomputer for the correct gap between the magnet and the reed switch sensor. Be also sure to use the correct magnet! Some cyclocomputers have a weak magnet and others a strong magnet. If you use a weak magnet for a cyclocomputer requiring a strong magnet, you run into problems.

Also be sure to mount the magnet and sensor at the correct height. If the cyclocomputer manual says down near the hub is preferable, do so. If the cyclocomputer manual says high up the fork leg near the rim is preferable, do so.

Cheap cyclocomputers may not have good adjustment options for different spoke - fork leg spacings in different bicycles. At least the Sigma ones I have come with excellent adjustment options, allowing the reed switch sensor surface to be parallel to the spokes.

The source (2) can be avoided by only using digital radio. For example if using Sigma, select STS and not ATS. The source (2) with analog radio (not recommended) can be reduced by having the cyclocomputer and the sensor at the same side, and by minimizing the distance between the cyclocomputer and the sensor (thus mounting the sensor high up in the fork).

Answered by juhist on March 3, 2021

I had a problem with a low-end wired cateye computer. It would work fine for a while, and then occasionally my reported speed would be 50% higher, bursting to 100% higher. I even saw 90 km/h once when I was riding at about 30.

Fortunately I have a couple of these, and managed to isolate the problem to the sensor, not the magnet nor the head unit.

Since this one is cheap, it uses a reed switch not a hall-effect sensor. That reed switch is inside a lightweight glass tube, which had broken but the internals were still in place.

At certain road vibrations the sensor would double-bounce and record 2 pulses for each magnet pass. We have a lot of chipseal roads, which have an inherent Buzz while riding, and there was a sympathetic speed/coarseness which could trigger the sensor to double-read.

My fix was to simply buy more reed switches and solder one in. It wasn't difficult, and that bike has been great ever since. Perhaps your sensor is failing - some investigation might help. If you can swap parts somehow with another similar unit, might help identify a root cause.

Answered by Criggie on March 3, 2021

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