Bicycles Asked by Myles Keller on March 22, 2021
i found this old 12 speed basically attached to a neighbor’s back porch by vines, and aside from some superficial rust on the chrome, it seems to be structurally intact. the decals read as stated in the title and also indicate that it was sold by Sears Roebuck and made in Taiwan.
a photo album of the bicycle and closeups of parts is available here.
i can’t find any reliable documentation specifying the parts currently installed, but as far as i can tell from googling, it appears to have:
i would like to replace most of these with modern equivalents that fit with minimal/no modification. (e.g., a non-cottered crank, quick-release hubs, common derailleurs, etc.)
the only resource i could find with something specific was this Reddit post where someone claimed to replace the BB with a Shimano UN-55.
tl;dr: knowing the parts is useless. You have a caliper, now you just need to remove everything and measure everything. You will learn something just by disassembling this bicycle and not focusing on brands, just on dimensions and "mechanics" of the parts you are removing. Then, about reassembling it, it will cost you 5 times the money and 50 times the time+effort with respect to a bicycle shop. Disclaimer: I do not own a bicycle shop.
The parts currently installed have no value and will provide very little information on their own. You can still disassemble them and try to understand a thing or two on how they are assembled and maybe how they work, especially about the derailleur (springs, limiting screws and so on).
Bottom bracket and cranks are good to be recycled (=scrap metal), as well as the chain and whatever is installed on the rear wheel as a cassette.
New bottom bracket and crank ---> most likely new chain line. Which is not that bad considering that the wheels will almost for sure need a good clean (greasing the hubs and so on) and you may discover that they are in bad conditions, so counting them temporarily as scrap metal as well, the new chain line is less of an issue (you have a lot of freedom once you have to replace bottom bracket, crank, rear wheel).
So remove the bottom bracket, check whatever size is relevant.
Then check the fork. Remove it, give it a thorough clean and a good examination, check for cracks in the fork or for deep rust. You do not want a fork that breaks in half while sprinting across an intersection, nor while you are just coming up/down from the curbs.
Check and note wheels size.
Save the frame, maybe the fork, then you have a lot of freedom in how to reassemble this bicycle.
I forecast something on the order of at least 3/400 USD/EUR/GBP, only for the parts (assuming you have all the needed tools for cassette, bottom bracket, fork, etcetc).
Answered by EarlGrey on March 22, 2021
You might find the project is not feasible.
A long time ago when I was a poor student, I had a cheap hybrid bike and became interested in cycling. I learned that good bikes intended for riding on the road as opposed to off-road come with high-performance narrow slick tires and a drop bar. High-performance narrow slick tires I could install to the hybrid bike, but drop bar would be a more difficult thing. Firstly, the brake levers and shifters need replacing with drop bar variants, and secondly, the hybrid frame geometry would not be ideal for installing drop bar (it even had a cheap suspension fork!).
I knew if I wanted a drop bar bike, it would probably be Surly Long Haul Trucker, but I didn't know if I wanted a drop bar bike (never having ridden one) and Surly LHT was out of my budget at that time.
Knowing that in the 1980's cheap drop bar road bikes were fashionable until they were replaced with the cheap mountain bike, I started to find if I can find some abandoned bike with frame size that would be roughly ideal for me and drop bar. The purpose was to ride it for a while to see if drop bar was my thing. I found one, not particularly good, and started to investigate what I had found.
I made the following observations:
In the end, I decided to salvage whatever parts were useful from the abandoned bike. The only part I could ever find use for was the drop bar itself (fortunately, it had 25.4mm stem attachment and not 26.0mm stem attachment). I never rode even a kilometer with the abandoned bike, because it wasn't in such a condition that I could ride it.
So I modified my plans. I ordered 8-speed bar-end shifters from eBay (they weren't manufactured anymore so new-old-stock or used were my only options), V brake long pull drop bar brake levers from a German online bike part shop, and installed the drop bar to my hybrid bike.
I found drop bar was my thing. I enjoyed it greatly even though the hybrid bike frame was a bit too long for drop bar use. The bike I had was probably the strangest bike on this planet -- it had drop bar and cheap suspension fork on the same frame. Later, after finding employment, I assembled a Surly Long Haul Trucker from parts so that I had the bike I wanted to have. I found the LHT frame geometry was better than in the cheap hybrid bike for drop bar use.
My advice to you: if too much of the parts are very old and barely functioning, it might be more feasible to salvage any parts that you might consider using and throw away the rest. Then install the salvaged parts to some other bike.
Especially if the frame is of an old standard for bottom bracket or hub attachment, it might be very wise to salvage any parts you might consider using and throw away the rest.
Answered by juhist on March 22, 2021
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