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Bluetooth and WiFi interfering with one another since Yosemite

Ask Different Asked by zerohedge on January 8, 2021

Note: The only thing that changed in my setup is installing Yosemite.

Since installing Yosemite, I’m having a somewhat peculiar problem: WiFi works fine, and BT works fine. But WiFi + BT working together at the same time is a different story.

I first noticed this yesterday. Two things happen, and the second is more prevalent:

  1. I was using Apple’s Magic Mouse + wireless keyboard, and began downloading a large file. Once this happened, mouse movement began being really slow, as if I’m trying to move the mouse on a very uneven surface. Pausing the download would bring the mouse’s movement back to normal.

  2. But then something else started happening: Turning BT on would effectively kill my internet connection. From the moment I turn on BT and start using mouse & keyboard, my download speed would go quickly from 1.3MB/s to 500B/s (yes, Bytes), and die slowly from there. When this happens, my mouse movement is just fine. Upon turning BT off, download speed shoots back up to 1.3MB/s.

So to me it seems like BT and WiFi are “competing” with each other, like they’re sharing the “same lane” when they shouldn’t. Either the normal WiFi speeds will make my mouse move really slowly, or, if my BT is working fine, then my WiFi download speeds will be abysmal. This seems to only happen (or be noticeable) when I’m downloading something like a big file.

I’ve tried many solutions — PRAM, hardware tests, etc..nothing seems to have helped.

WTH?

Note: This question isn’t about the (seemingly more common) WiFi dropping issues, please don’t hijack it.

Update 1: There seem to be more people having this issue.

Update 2: Problem persists even after updating to OS X 10.10.1.

Update 3: Over 5 months later, and Apple still haven’t fixed this.

Update 4: (29/10/15) One year later (on the latest OS X El Capitan), and my rMBP is still suffering from this issue. Work perfectly on their own, but together they get very challenging. For those who suggested to just get a 5GHz router — I appreciate your responses. However, I don’t think I should be obligated to buy a new router just because Apple messed up their software. This is no fix for the underlying issue that is clearly still there for many people. The answer selected as “correct” was auto selected since this was a bounty quesiton.

7 Answers

Bluetooth and IEEE 802.11/b/g/n (WIFI) use almost the same frequency bands:

  • Bluetooth: 2.402 - 2.480 GHz (79 channels)
  • WIFI 2.4 GHz (IEEE 802.11/b/g/n): 2.4 – 2.4835 GHz (11, 13 or 14 channels depending on the country)

Usually Bluetooth uses frequency hopping and changes the possible 79 x 1 MHz bands 1600 times a second to avoid disturbances while WIFI uses fixed channels.

Obviously something went wrong developing the latest Bluetooth- or WIFI-drivers.

The only workaround until Apple gets their drivers fixed is using dual band wireless access points. Those devices use two different frequency bands: 2.4 – 2.4835 GHz and 5.18 - 5.825 GHz (with some gaps). Connecting to WIFI 5 GHz (IEEE 802.11a/h/n) will not interfere with Bluetooth.

Almost all Macs sold since 2006 support 802.11 a/b/g/n.

Apple's answer: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth: Potential sources of wireless interference

BTW: Not only typical RF-based devices (like wireless phones, etc) but also bad-shielded USB3-devices and cables interfere with WIFI (2.4 GHz) and Bluetooth.

Correct answer by klanomath on January 8, 2021

In my case, I figured that I was using wireless mouse with one of those dongles (and it turns out that it operates on 2.4 GHz frequency just as WiFi and BT). So, it was really not the BT and WiFi interfering, but that stupid dongle-d mouse!
HTH

Answered by Vivek Sethi on January 8, 2021

Open the Terminal app (Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal), paste the following code, press Enter and type your admin password when prompted.

sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.airport.bt.plist bluetoothCoexMgmt Hybrid

Then reboot. This worked for me on macOS Catalina 10.15.1

Credit 1, 2

BTW, you may find some sites saying to turn off Handoff. I tried that. It didn't help.

Answered by MrG on January 8, 2021

For visitor who are using BootCamp and encounter this question while searching for a solution, this worked for me on MBP 2017 with Microsoft Designer Set (Mouse and Keyboard)

Device Manager > Network Adapters > Broadcom 802.11ac Network Adapter > Right click and Select Properties > Advanced Tab > Bluetooth Collaboration > Disable

Answered by M Fuat NUROĞLU on January 8, 2021

While still not perfect, removing the Bluetooth PAN device (even if its not connected at all) from the network devices helped me greatly.

Answered by MarZab on January 8, 2021

Most likely the introduction of Continuity in Yosemite increases the demand for wireless bandwidth and that impinges upon the already crowded 2.4GHz band shared between Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Many pieces of evidence support this theory:

  1. Bluetooth and Wi-Fi interference only came to the fore after the introduction of Yosemite so it can't be just due to the fact that they share the same frequency band (otherwise Mavericks would suffer from the same problem on a wide scale).

  2. The more Bluetooth devices that one has the more likely that one's Wi-Fi connection would deteriorate or even get dropped completely.

  3. The presence of any Bluetooth device that requires a large bandwidth and constant connection, e.g. Bluetooth speakers, almost always incurs interference.

  4. Removing Bluetooth PAN from one's network or terminating AirDrop service work for some (most likely those with very few Bluetooth devices) albeit for a short period of time suggests that congestion is a culprit.

  5. Finally, those who use routers with dual-band support, e.g. one from the latest AirPort lineup, don't seem to suffer from this problem.

I also suspect that people who suffer from this type of interference the most are those who have devices that can only support up to 802.11b/g on their network, e.g. a pre-2009 PC or Mac.

Despite the instability of discoveryd, Apple kept it for three updates before finally removing it on the fourth. Apple must've felt the need for a new network service that can both accommodate the augmented bandwidth requirement of Continuity and the security demand that it wants to meet.

Update: Restricting my Airport Express (1st gen) to 5 GHz has made the problem go away completely and my Wi-Fi speed has jumped an incredible three-fold.

Answered by pfan on January 8, 2021

IMO - the true fix for this is to get your WiFi network off 2.4 GHz when it's not reliable.

I put together a bit of a guide on how to know if you have to spend the $$ to get a better frequency, and the tools/books are about $20 each.

  1. Get off 2.4 GHz - use 5 GHz as it's far less susceptible to interferance and channel overlap.
  2. If you are on 2.4 - get a tool like WiFi Explorer to make sure you have a viable environment to have a reliable experience.
  3. If you want to learn more and have limited time to piece things together from internet volunteers, this take control book by Glenn Fleishman is excellent.

See Yosemite keeps dropping WiFI connectivity for more details on how to diagnose an interference issue between BT and WiFi on 2.4 GHz

Answered by bmike on January 8, 2021

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