Arqade Asked by dyesdyes on May 17, 2021
Recently I watched this video that tells to never do duo rank games.
But I find few advantages on duo rank games:
It’s nice to play with a friend.
Good communication via Skype or other voice chats.
It’s one less troll in your team (assuming your friend isn’t one).
I think I win more games while Duo-Queuing.
In general, what are the pros and cons of playing duo ranks?
What are the optimal conditions in order to maximise the advantages and lower the cons of duo ranking? (Maybe playing with someone lower in rank than you, but having same skills (someone who is climbing quickly the ladder for instance))
Duoqueuing can have more advantages than disadvantages but you have to do it right. I'll first tell you some of the Pros and Cons of Duoqueue.
You have already listed most of the positive aspects of duoqueue. Now there are still some that are important:
Unfortunately there are a lot of negative aspects when playing Duoqueue most of them can be avoided but as mentioned above: you'll have to play accordingly.
Correct answer by Jutschge on May 17, 2021
Your points are valid. But there also are disadvantages:
Less/Far too much LP
Less LP is a horrible feeling. I was in Diamond II, 95 LP in Season IV and gained 1 LP per match (Non-Duo). When i was at 98 LP, the game had the audaciousness to give me 0 LP for that win, which was the point I went into completely ragemode. The same can happen when you queue with someone who is lower than you. The game will give you less LP in a win, but also more LP loss in a defeat. Your friend has the advantage to gain more LP and lose less, but if he doesn't play on that level, he is screwed once he plays on his own without you.
Nobody likes premades
It's tough, but in reality - almost everybody hates premades, including me. They tend to flame everyone else except themselves (e.g. botlane pre usually flame the jungler), will never criticize each other, so there is no constructive progress and 99% of them think they can carry on their own without playing with the team. So you will most likely get flamed if you mess it up. I wouldn't mention it in game if I were you.
Friendship on the risk
Yes, you might laugh at this point, but I saw friendships ending because of a game. Maybe this will not happen to you, but there might be a few arguments which might escalate.
Answered by Realitätsverlust on May 17, 2021
Essentially there is one huge disadvantage to dual queuing - which is that your team gets an ELO penalty compared to the other team.
In other words if the opposing team does not also have a duo then they will be individually more skilled than your team.
In order to make duo worth it you need to bring advantages to the table that outweigh that penalty. This means that you need superior teamwork, game knowledge, and ability - not just for your lane but for the whole game.
So duo bot makes sense in terms of winning that lane. You are (or should be) on voice comms together. You are (or should be) used to working together and know how to get that synergy you need to dominate in lane.
But the price of that is both the other lanes potentially being outmatched. You've traded one winning lane for 2 losing ones. Unless you are able to take your bot lane and really dominate, start taking dragons, roaming to mid, etc, then your team as a whole has lost out.
Doing mid or top+jungler is actually a fairly strong duo combination as well. You can work nicely co-ordinating ganks or invasions. But you still have the same problem, you've gained in one lane to lose in two others.
If you go top+mid, that's even worse as now you're extra co-ordination is really weak in the early game. It can work but only if you both start roaming early.
So that's the trade-off with going duo queue. It's not enough to win your lane. You need to use the extra co-ordination between the two of you to win the whole map. For example a successful jungle+mid will:
Steal an enemy buff, defend own buffs, ward map and invade on enemy jungler. As soon as you hit 6 you'll both move together to do a 4 man gank on enemy bot lane then take dragon, etc.
You need to get your team ahead, not just yourselves.
Answered by Tim B on May 17, 2021
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