3D Printing Asked on December 2, 2021
I have been playing around with the bed for a while and I still can’t get the first layer to stick properly. I think I am getting the bed leveled good, I use the paper method. But yet I find myself with the filament lifting off and getting pulled away with the nozzle or some balling in rare situations.
I use masking tape, which I found for $3 at Dollar general. I heard something about shine being a factor, but why is that important? And is more expensive masking tape worth it? I don’t want to buy it because I would hate for it to tear when I take off a print.
I also use some glue stick, which seems to sometimes not help, almost like it doesn’t allow the filament to stick. I don’t think I was adding too much, maybe I was. But is glue stick needed? Does it really make that much of a difference?
So other than that I don’t know what to try. I can’t get the first layer to work properly. Maybe it is my speed, what is a good speed to print at for the first layer, I am doing 60 mm/s, just like the rest of my print.
Any advice from there with first layers would be great. I am tired of wasting time and filament over failed first layers. But when I do get the first layer done, the second+ layers all work fine, no issues.
Here are the specs of my printer, that should be helpful for people:
I think that covers everything, Let me know if I need to add anything else.
I'm Using Masking tape with no problems, your parameters are OK and just need to sand the surface before sending to print, use sand paper #120 or #150. The first layer height is 0.18 mm to 0.25 mm. The masking tape can be used for a lot of prints, you can change it every week to keep a good adhesion.
I found that not all brands works fine, for example TUK has a good adhesion and can be used for several prints. 3M has an stronger adhesion but is needed to sand on 100 % area and can be used only for one printing. Jevelin has a good adhesion but, if the heat bed is above 40 °C this masking tape starts to peel off. and the other ones might have the same issue near to 50 °C or more.
Answered by Fernando Baltazar on December 2, 2021
I'll go out on a limb and suggest that, while your bed may be well-levelled, the Z-axis zero might be off. A difference of 10-20 microns can be the difference between strong adhesion to the bed/tape and having your print float away. If your first layer doesn't get "squashed flat" a bit by the nozzle, your extruder head is slightly higher than optimal.
Answered by Carl Witthoft on December 2, 2021
Mick (other answerer) is spot-on with his advice on how to prep the masking tape to work well as an adhesion enhancer.
Additionally: what material is the surface of your printing bed, and is the bed heated? If it is, just know that you may want to try with both heat on and off if you are using tape (it works worse for me and at least a friend of mine with heat on, but down in the comment others report it working better...).
As for general advice on bed adhesion strategies: in case your bed is glass and heated, then the best, fastest, cleanest and cheapest method is to just print on it without anything else. The secrets to success here are:
The last point is good advice even if your bed is not glass, although you won't benefit from it as much.
Answered by mac on December 2, 2021
Instead of masking tape, I would use BuildTac or some other similar surface. These are self-adhesive and come in various sizes. You can cut them down if they are too large for your bed.
I'm using it on my Monoprice Select Mini with a heated bed and it works fine.
I did have to experiment with the PLA I'm using in order to make sure it didn't adhere too well.
And yes, I use alcohol prep pads to clean the surface. You can get these at the first aid or diabetes section of any pharmacy.
Answered by NomadMaker on December 2, 2021
Masking tape (and blue painter's tape) is coated with a wax-based release agent in order to prevent the tape sticking to itself on the roll. This release agent must be removed with an organic solvent in order to obtain good adhesion. Isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol is good for this. Acetone will also work, but it is a much stronger solvent (which is not necessarily a good thing).
For blue painter's tape, rub freshly applied tape with solvent until the blue dye starts coming off. Then give it a quick wipe between prints to remove any fingerprints, etc.
Answered by Mick on December 2, 2021
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