Sustainable Living Asked by xkcbdz on October 1, 2021
I want to pursue an independent lifestyle growing my own food, using solar panels etc. but I live in Spain and the legislation here doesn’t favour this, buying terrain in a rural area and being allowed to build a house using alternative materials is very difficult and expensive, are there countries that encourage and facilitate this kind of living? or communities that have already figured out how to deal with legislators and are open to accept new people.
If you're currently in Western Europe, then Eastern European countries may be very interesting for you to look at, because compared to Western Europe:
We're from Western Europe and have been living in Bulgaria now for over 5 years. I'll share my experience regarding the above points to give you a deeper insight in this country. I believe the situation is very similar in Romania, but cannot speak from personal experience.
1: Cost of living: in 2016 the cost of living in index for Spain is 56.11 (which is much lower already than most Western European countries), and for Bulgaria it's 36.36 (which is much lower again). Source: http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp.
2: Cost of property: in 2016 in many Bulgarian villages it's possible to buy an old house from between 10.000 and 20.000 Euros upwards. These would be houses that need work, but they are liveable. many houses have a decent sized garden (think 500 to 1000 m2 minimum). If you need more land for growing food, I'd consider not buying that, but using old communal land. Many villages have this and it can be rented cheaply or worked freely.
3: Availability of property: everywhere in Bulgaria younger people tend to want to live in the towns (where most of the work is), leaving the villages (and there are many) to the elderly. When occupants die properties are often left uninhabited for long periods of time.
4: Regulations: compared to Western Europe the attitude towards what you want to do with your property is much more 'laisser faire / let it be'. If you want to build a compost loo in your garden, you just do it. Want to install solar panels? Go for it. Building a lean-to for storing straw-bales? No problem. Want to dig a pond in your garden? Sure. Don't get me wrong, there certainly are rules and regulations, but for relatively small things the attitude of everyone is: just do it. As long as it's sensible and it blends in, no-one really cares.
5: Self-sufficient lifestyle: in the villages older people tend to be fairly self-sufficient. Almost everyone grows a garden that they use to feed themselvesand sometimes their family throughout the year. Canning and bottling all kinds of foods is very common. Many people keep animals (most commonly chickens and bees, but also geese, goats, sheep, donkeys, horses, cows, pigs, etc.). And these things are totally normal and even applauded. Bulgarians tend to be proud of their gardens.
6: Pristine nature: Eastern European countries are much less densely populated than most Western European countries. With an average population density of 69 people per km2, Bulgaria is one of the lesser densely populated countries in Europe (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_and_population_of_European_countries). This leaves much more room for nature. I've tried to find you statistics on the level of biodiversity here, but they're not very well recorded, so I can only speak from personal observations. When I compare Bulgaria's nature to that of the Netherlands and the UK (countries I've both lived in), there's just much more nature here. Commercial agriculture is also big in Bulgaria, and you will see vast areas of monoculture, but at the same time in areas less accessible to humans nature still just does its thing.
Some more info:
The climate here is continental with warm summers and cold winters. We're experimenting with growing our own food and have come to the conclusion that with permaculture techniques it's possible to grow our own food year-round. We're not self-sufficient at all food-wise, because we choose to focus on other things also, but it would be possible for us.
There weather is generally sunny, which is great if you're looking into producing your own energy from the sun. But there's also plenty of rain, which is great for growing food.
There are many natural springs also, so it's usually quite easy to get good drinking water (tap water is considered safe also by the way).
Another consideration if you're now in Spain is that Bulgaria is (like Spain) a EU country, which makes settling here easier.
I hope this helps :)
Correct answer by Dvaeer on October 1, 2021
Wales (in the UK) has a planning policy called "One planet development" which substantially relaxes planning restrictions for new dwellings which will "have an initial ecological footprint of 2.4 global hectares per person or less with a clear potential to move to 1.88 global hectares per person over time":
http://lammas.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/one-planet-development-guidance.pdf
Given that planning permission for building new dwellings in the UK is very difficult to obtain, and greatly increases the value of land, this is quite a significant policy.
Answered by aucuparia on October 1, 2021
I can only tell you about my country, Chile, where I've been watching the situation closely. But since I'm living in France now (for the moment), I'm also familiar with the situation in France and Spain. As things are in Chile right now, I believe that self-sufficiency is quite affordable. We can generate our own energy, our tax load is quite low (compared to any country in Europe), and there is plenty of land in the south, which is really fertile (though prices have been rising steadily in the last decade). Legislation in terms of building rules is also quite flexible, and raw materials are not expensive (but it depends on the region).
Also, apart from the clean sources (wind, sun), you can use wood for heating, as long as you don't live in a big city, where sometimes is forbidden.
Here is the story of one successful self-sufficient community from Bio Bio, Chile. http://www.paula.cl/reportajes-y-entrevistas/reportajes/el-pueblo-autosuficiente/
But you can't have anything: low taxes mean a poor social security system and you also have to take into account all the disadvantages that come when living in a developing country. We are not even close of the notion of Welfare State. You basically get what you can afford. You will need to sell a horse anytime you go see the doctor for something different than a routine check.
Having said that, I don't think that Chile---or are any other country in South America---actually encourages this way of life, thinks are like this mainly as a consequence of the economic system (but this can be quite a subjective opinion). And because there is still people, especially in the south Patagonia, that relies on self-sufficiency, at least at some extent. They just don't have the choice.
Finally, I also know there are still some active communities in England, one of which is ran by John Seymour's daughter Anne Sear. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35945417 It seems that starting your own self-sufficient community in Europe can be just too hard and expensive, but you can still try to integrate an existing one.
Answered by vaz on October 1, 2021
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