English Language & Usage Asked on January 2, 2021
A paper titled "Three Types of English Pseudo-passives" has these examples (p8):
(31) a. *Seoul was walked around by his father.
b. Seoul can be walked around in a day.
(32) a. *The hotel was stayed in by my sister.
b. The hotel can be stayed in by foreigners.
The paper explains these examples as follows:
Walking around Seoul in a day and staying in the hotel both can
characterize the general or characteristic property of Seoul and the hotel.
However, if these actions are performed by a particular individual such
as his father or sister, they cannot represent the general properties of
the subject referent.
I wonder why the writer focuses on the agents in (a) examples being particular individuals. Isn’t it the use of modals such as ‘can’ that allows (b) examples?
For example, aren’t these (c) examples possible?
(31) c. Seoul can be walked around by his father.
(32) c. The hotel can be stayed in by my sister.
I don't think it's just a matter of modals allowing a (pseudo)passive construction. I don't know of any theoretical reason why modals would be expected to have such an effect, and I would not classify 31c) or 32c) as acceptable sentences.
(It's harder for me to say whether they are "possible", because they are "possible" in a certain sense: e.g. I might come up with 31c) if I was forced to provide a passive version of "His father can walk around Seoul". But I think I likewise might produce 31a) if I was forced to provide a passive version of "His father walked around Seoul.")
32b) actually doesn't sound very acceptable to me to begin with, but "The hotel was stayed in by foreigners" doesn't sound much worse, whereas your 32c) "The hotel can be stayed in by my sister" definitely sounds more unnatural/unacceptable to me than either.
Likewise, "walked around" sounds as acceptable to me in the following sentences (taken from the web) as it does in 31b) (that is, it sounds like fairly awkward wording in all of these sentences):
By faith, the walls of Jericho fell, after it was walked around for seven days.
–"Aramaic Bible in Plain English" (a translation, of course, but the translator presumably wasn't aiming to produce an outright unacceptable or ungrammatical sentence.)
This lake was treated in 1954 and planted with rainbow trout in 1955. The lake was walked around completely and no fish were observed from shore, although a number were seen jumping for flies. One 6" rainbow trout was found dead (winter kill?). It appeared to be in good condition.
–the first of three paragraphs in the one-page "File Note: Woods Lake, Alpine County." July 25, 1956. From California Department of Fish and Wildlife’s (CDFW) Data Portal.
Your 31c) "Seoul can be walked around by his father" doesn't sound much, if at all, better to me than 31a) "Seoul was walked around by his father." I'd say both sound less acceptable than the examples above with "walked around".
Answered by herisson on January 2, 2021
The author is discussing phrasal verbs. A phrasal verb consists of a verb + an adverb (as complement).
It is distinct from an intransitive verb that may be followed by {Preposition + NP = [adverbial] modifier}
The transitivity of a phrasal verb and its root verb often differ.
I don't agree with the central proposition of the paper:
English is peculiar in that it allows some of the prepositional verbs (multi-words consisting of a verb and a preposition) to be passivized.
a. They talked (intransitive) {about (preposition) the scandal} for days.
(Compare "They talked (intransitive) for days .....{about (preposition) the scandal} .
...........................................................(adv. mod.)...............(adv. mod.)
b. The scandal was talked (passive) about (adverb) for days.
Compare "To relax, he walked about(adv.)" and "To relax, he walked about(prep.) the garden."
OED
About
A. adv. I. Expressing actual or implied motion or direction.
1922 J. Joyce Ulysses i. ii. [Nestor] 30 Three, Mr Deasy said, turning his little savingsbox about in his hand.
b. With verbs denoting activity, with the sense of movement weakened or absent: at large, freely; in an aimless, idle, or frivolous manner; without any definite purpose.
For the more established phrasal verbs with this sense, as to fool about, to mess about, to muck about, etc.: see the verbs. Earliest in to play about at play v. Phrasal verbs 1.
1992 I. Rankin Good Hanging 225 Chief Inspector Lauderdale just laughed, thinking Rebus was clowning about as per usual.
Answered by Greybeard on January 2, 2021
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