Electrical Engineering Asked on October 29, 2021
I’ve designed an inrush current limiting circuit and would welcome a review from experts with more experience with this sort of thing. The load will be around 50 x 19 VDC @ 3.5 A linear power supplies connected in parallel with steady state load up to around 20 A @ 230 VAC.
There are a few specific requirements that motivated my own design rather than an off-the-shelf version:
As is typical with inrush current limiting circuits, to avoid the power loss in the NTCs during steady state (which at 25 A is significant – around 200 W) I short out the NTCs with a relay after a short delay (~0.6 seconds, depending on tolerance).
There is also a thermal trip switch so that if the NTCs get too hot the current will trip and stay off until the power is cycled (so that the circuit does not yo-yo between on and off as the NTCs get hot and cold). This is my own invention (as far as I know) but I have not tested it before. I did simulate it in SPICE and it seems to work.
The intended sequence when power is first supplied to the circuit is as follows:
Some notes:
I can’t share the PSU datasheet since it’s confidential but it contains the following information:
I can open up a PSU to look at the input stage but I suspect it’ll be a fuse, toroidal transformer then smoothing capacitors and regulation (somewhat similar to what I have in my design). I expect the transformer is what causes the large inrush current on switch-on, since at that point it has no magnetic field and thus initially acts like a low value resistor. Unfortunately the datasheet doesn’t state the input capacitance/inductance directly, but perhaps this can be worked out from the values above?
Does anyone spot any issues? Do people think my thermal latch, timings, etc. will work?
20V TVS in relays coil flyback makes no sense, Are 21A 200V mosfets in(relatively) bulky packages to drive them really necessary? In space critical application I would rather expect bc817.
LM317 - why not LM7812? same result with much less components.
Answered by zajc3w on October 29, 2021
I've designed an inrush current limiting circuit and would welcome a review from experts with more experience with this sort of thing.
Depending on how the UPS is designed, it may not "play-ball" with the series resistors because they may cause the UPS to try and take a really excessive starting current (which it can't take due to the resistors). The upshot of all of this is that the UPS never really kicks into action until the relay closes (shorting the current limiting resistors) and then, you have the same inrush problem just delayed in time.
So, to design this we really need to know what the front-end circuitry in the UPS is like.
Regarding the contact closure that short the resistors, I'd be much more inclined to activate that contact when the AC supply output has risen to the point when the UPS (if it plays ball) is e.g. 75% of the input voltage. A fixed time delay produced by R11 and C9 is too "open-loop" to be effective.
You also need an input fuse on transformer L1 because most magnetic components like this are not rated to be connected directly across a very resilient mains AC supply. Fuse F1 on the output of L1 won't cut-the-mustard in this respect. Ditto the input varistor U1.
Why are your flyback components two series diodes in series with a zener. I can understand one diode and a zener but two diodes and a zener seems like you may be misunderstanding something.
Does C1 really need to be 1000 uF (1 mF)?
Answered by Andy aka on October 29, 2021
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