Electrical Engineering Asked by Shimon Jacobs on February 16, 2021
I saw a comment on another post about using PTFE coated copper wire as a heating element for a thermos. Would this setup really work under low power(the comment said the source was a usb port) as I assume the PTFE will insulate some of the heat.
Will this be a suitable material for my project. I am trying to keep a mug warm using a wireless charging pad (~7.5W).
Water has good thermal conductivity, so the PTFE won't 'insulate the heat' to any noticeable extent provided the the wire is long enough to spread it out. The wire inside might get a bit hotter, but PTFE can withstand up to 260 °C. With the outside being kept cool by the water the inside should not get anywhere near that temperature.
Vacuum flasks are designed to minimize heat loss, so a small heater can work. In one test a 500 ml Thermos dropped from 90 °C to 75 °C in 8 hours. Water has a specific heat capacity of 4182 J/kg.°C, so 500 ml dropping 15 °C in 8 hours corresponds to an average power loss of ~1.1W. That means anything over 1.1W would be enough to (eventually) heat that Thermos flask to 75-90 °C and keep it there.
A typical mug only holds ~250 ml, but the heat loss is far greater. In this test a vacuum insulated mug took ~65 minutes to drop from 90 °C to 75 °C, but a basic ceramic mug lost the same amount in less than 15 minutes. However as temperature gets closer to ambient the heat loss slows down. At 50 °C the ceramic mug lost ~9 °C in 15 minutes, which corresponds to ~10W in 250 ml.
So your 7.5 W should be enough to keep a vacuum insulated mug with lid warm, but may not be sufficient for a standard mug.
Correct answer by Bruce Abbott on February 16, 2021
Copper has a very low resistance, so it will require a lot of current to dissipate any appreciable power (even 7.5W would need many amps).
PTFE covered resistance wire is available, if you are prepared to buy enough of it. For an example, refer to this link
Answered by elchambro on February 16, 2021
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