Electrical Engineering Asked by iSynthetixx on January 31, 2021
I need to design a circuit that can light three different LED lights to simulate a traffic signal using two inputs. The first input is either -12v, 0v, + 12v. The second input is always on and it’s just +12v. Thinking as the ternary input as the control the other as the main power, the following truth table needs to be met. We currently have a circuit working using relays and diodes but I want to try and simplify it (I didn’t design it). Thank you for any help and feed back.
Nice simple circuit with two relays and two diodes, though I'm sure this is what you currently have. I don't know that a design with more parts will count as simpler.
Answered by jonathanjo on January 31, 2021
I have made the assumption that the control signal can source enough current to light the LEDs. I also decided that the LEDs should be off when the input is floating. I then created the circuit shown below.
With a floating input Q1 is off and the current in R4 flows through D1 and D2 and makes the voltage at point A about 4V. When the input is connected to ground, Q1 turns on and LED3 lights and the the voltage at point A drops to about 3V. As the input goes negative LED1 starts to conduct ; at about -10V all the current from R4 flows through LED1. LED3 will be off and the voltage at point A will be around zero volts. When the input goes positive Q1 and LED3 turn off and LED2 turns on; the voltage at point A will stay around 4V. Since the circuit draws current from V+ no matter what, putting a fourth LED in series with R4 would prevent users leaving power on. If you don't have a 3.3V zener D1 and D2 can be LEDs; they can be placed out of sight or used as power on indicators. The resistor values are the ones I used; you may need to scale them to suit your components.
Answered by EinarA on January 31, 2021
Here is a 4-transistor + 3 diode solution.
V2 +12 D1 on 10mA only
V2 -12 D2 on 10mA only
V2 0V D3 on 10mA only
V1 0V all off.
simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab
To minimize the current drawn would require another transistor to invert the drive to D3 rather than shunting it.
There might be a simpler approach, this does not quite feel elegant enough.
Edit:
Okay, using Jasen's idea of common-base input, the below gets rid of the diodes and still has 4 transistor (5 if you want to avoid the shunt)
Answered by Spehro Pefhany on January 31, 2021
simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab
Figure 1. A couple of opto-isolators can be used to detect polarity and give logic level outputs.
You'll need a little additional logic for the red lamp.
Answered by Transistor on January 31, 2021
something like this could do it.
simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab
Answered by Jasen on January 31, 2021
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